On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 11:56:33 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > Ya debian still uses kde4. There is probably nothing kde5 can do better > security or functionality wise. True.
> Some people still have the shutdown issue. I had it on 3.0 and i believe on > 3.1 also on two machines. I know Eva on the mailing list have the issue it > depends on whats running. But I haven't noticed it lately. I mainly found that whenever I had the trouble, it was just an IRQ issue, Or else the rare, "the guest has shutdown but I have not been told" issue. > Firefox only use to freeze full screen for me in 3.1 with fedora templates. > But worked in debian and whonix. Ever since debian dropped the firefox > weasel to firefox esr for some reason now on my machine it has same issue > fedora always had in Qubes. I hate any of the new firefox since 24, so I mainly use ESR myself, because it's one of the last ones, ESR24, that still has the COR$RECT options that we need and want. But I've never had the fullsccreen issue, on any system. > I have disliked fedora since fedora 20, Fedora 19 was a good one. But ever > since then more and more unstable. And I think it was fedora 22 that > introduced dnf which I dont' like and a whole lot of other problems. But I > agree i have no problem with the older DE versions. I don't need the new > fancy desktop themes or for my old hardware to become unsupported. And for > new hardware like skylake stuff I'm sure they could just upgrade kernels and > keep lts or older ones available. Exactly. I hate systemd. I hate wanky GUI stuff. I want functionality, not pretty crap. That was ONE of the things about the GUI they were going to have for the new manager, it lost 99% functionality, and gained 500% bloated graphics and lost realestate, not to mention the display of data that is good. YUM is better than DNF. The thing with that is... "qubes-dom0-update" runs.. and the firewall vm passes it from the YUM call to the DNF call.. Qubes didn't even remedy that when the templates were moved from 21 - 23. KDE5 is laggy, jumpy, unstable, not user friendly, menu system sucks (unlike KDE4), crashes every 2 seconds, has issues with updates to itself, can't handle multiple monitors easily (only 2, I'd hate to see it with the 5 monitor combo).. It has got more bugs than it fixed. > Right now everyone is demanding gpu passthrough lol. Why....? Why passthrough??? If they want that then they are NOT "normal users" which it's aimed at. I have had GPU passthrough since Qubes 2.0. So I don't know what they are wanting it for when it's already there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7e1e2722-0f66-4231-b762-5ac4fb1b719e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
