On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:54:52 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-08-29 23:41, Darko Vuković wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:26:40 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong > > wrote: On 2016-08-29 21:28, Drew White wrote: > >>>> On Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:28:16 UTC+10, Andrew David > >>>> Wong wrote: > >>>>> I don't know enough about the AMD platform to answer > >>>>> definitively, but if I'm interpreting this Twitter > >>>>> exchange correctly, it sounds like you might be right: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/QubesOS/status/756041961203785728 > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> So what are the actual requirements for Qubes 4? > >>>> > > > > The minimum requirements haven't been officially announced yet. > > (Only the requirements for Qubes Hardware Certification have > > been). > > > > > > If I understood correctly, one peace of the puzzle is Intel EPT > > (Extended Page Tables) enabled CPU's. So any laptop/notebook with > > one of them. > > > >>> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?ExtendedPageTables= > >>> true&MarketSegment=MBL > > > > but, what I've managed to find on this topic is that you should > > avoid > > > > > > - CPU with Intel® vPro Technology (so say good buy to: > > http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&MarketSegment=MBL& > > VProTechnology=true) > > > > > > and > > > > - Intel wireless cards (use Atheros instead) > > > > There are also three versions of Intel ME (Management Engine), > > Commercial and Consumer. They are both bad but consumer version is > > crippled one (less bad). I'm not sure how can someone pick one or > > the other but it would be nice to know. > > > > Potentially deadliest combination (privacy wise) is: CPU with vPro > > Technology+Intel wireless card+Intel ME (commercial version) > > > > > > It would be nice if someone could confirm(or deny) this and add > > some more information regarding other hardware here. > > > > Thaks > > > > This thread is about hardware *requirements* for 4.0, not hardware > that it would be prudent to avoid for various reasons. > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXxS2zAAoJENtN07w5UDAwiOMQAL86BKrbyZ1c+uha6duEM2b+ > w5XimnFl8AbvFfOEDC9j5m+6KW51HiJ3IASVJRAUCYRrMeqXrdcn7f+lEtsU6tx2 > JfNugcTbz4vAZtA57G+HmhrlNs+7o21sROVXeXGCwfSfs9MaFNQ2G8wUus1CbW8z > yj8cjzwcItbb437fF4HvAobbxqAjyulwdTmMMj0YjTCNjrOfYIpRb6E6HYajo5e4 > 4qyNzdA/O7tPnfqC08SOqCUMZWVUm/eqzK8peRlV5QvGHDfiq/Ck/B6I/uORhrMn > w1TdcsQmG5nS15uPViMa3c1/729rvIDjp7z3CA10s9jxQ6I7rfJQqsL1uykbL0Bi > xgvSbx8MGHUUxiFb51ZXmrlFZFNcATUz7gaxLLGVmnJRUvX/KNjKZcq7BWmy+80l > WmK/mab3OmoD0Gx1Pg8bL5BdeKvLDP5QAh5Vb7ArCNcGErlgRzyhm2AcToFsmRej > BJEDAvYo2yJXEVeDmzH51sp8sBYdWU5V3WbdgjOG5Vn23UqgtIBWiof3NmHl37OB > kqCkn35M+25Pj/dBELEAFA1wAT/AHoOa1Yj63g91uaniDOcDyh+TzPQvj7/wYni5 > H0cUMhG+1D0Gd+sHW4pQIf6x9nATHte/yfKoaukTCQ0pYVaIpK+QrlfYsf4Z7mqj > SRSFvFsQWIvlpG8roWfL > =tbqq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Well, I'm sorry for spamming here then but one could easily think that avoiding "bad hardware" should be exactly the requirement for this OS?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1b3138f0-3c48-4fa0-bd75-0060ba2381a7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.