On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:54:52 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-08-29 23:41, Darko Vuković wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:26:40 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong
> >  wrote: On 2016-08-29 21:28, Drew White wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:28:16 UTC+10, Andrew David 
> >>>> Wong wrote:
> >>>>> I don't know enough about the AMD platform to answer 
> >>>>> definitively, but if I'm interpreting this Twitter
> >>>>> exchange correctly, it sounds like you might be right:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/QubesOS/status/756041961203785728
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> So what are the actual requirements for Qubes 4?
> >>>> 
> > 
> > The minimum requirements haven't been officially announced yet. 
> > (Only the requirements for Qubes Hardware Certification have 
> > been).
> > 
> > 
> > If I understood correctly, one peace of the puzzle is Intel EPT 
> > (Extended Page Tables) enabled CPU's. So any laptop/notebook with 
> > one of them.
> > 
> >>> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?ExtendedPageTables= 
> >>> true&MarketSegment=MBL
> > 
> > but, what I've  managed to find on this topic is that you should 
> > avoid
> > 
> > 
> > - CPU with Intel® vPro Technology (so say good buy to: 
> > http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&MarketSegment=MBL&; 
> > VProTechnology=true)
> > 
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > - Intel wireless cards (use Atheros instead)
> > 
> > There are also three versions of Intel ME (Management Engine), 
> > Commercial and Consumer. They are both bad but consumer version is
> >  crippled one (less bad). I'm not sure how can someone pick one or 
> > the other but it would be nice to know.
> > 
> > Potentially deadliest combination (privacy wise) is: CPU with vPro
> >  Technology+Intel wireless card+Intel ME (commercial version)
> > 
> > 
> > It would be nice if someone could confirm(or deny) this and add 
> > some more information regarding other hardware here.
> > 
> > Thaks
> > 
> 
> This thread is about hardware *requirements* for 4.0, not hardware
> that it would be prudent to avoid for various reasons.
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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Well, I'm sorry for spamming here then but one could easily think that avoiding 
"bad hardware" should be exactly the requirement for this OS?!

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