Chris wrote:
> Especially if you did the sharing via a separate vpn or ssh tunnel. But
> in general, I don't think Qubes security should be considered much if
> any benefit to adjacent non-Qubes systems.

I'm curious as to why you would say this.

Any additional firewall between a Laptop and the network is a plus for
security, and with Qubes isolating the NIC in a virtual machine, its safer
from compromise than a typical firewall.

Now, some firewalls, such as shorewall running on a Linux box, might have
slicker and more advanced/flexible firewall configuration than Qubes, the
network card isolation is a huge boost to security in my eyes.

And there's nothing stopping you from running shorewall or another
firewall in your sys-firewall, to get the combined benefits of both
approaches.

While I like the simplicity of Qubes' firewall config, I'd actually like
to see more powerful firewall/iptables configuration, as well as having it
locked down to a greater degree by default (such as with Tails' iptables
configuration).

Similarly, I'd like to see apparmor installed and configured tightly with
Qubes by default.  (Again, Tails is a good example of including apparmor
support by default, although they inexplicably exclude the "extra"
profiles, which include chromium and some other useful/critical profiles,
IMO.  Maybe its for performance reasons, but it still seems crazy [almost
suspicious, lol] not to include them.)

Qubes NIC isolation + iptables + apparmor can make a system incredibly
secure against breaches.  While Qubes' isn't designed as a firewall for
other computers/devices, it strikes me as having the potential to be a
safer firewall base than the alternatives.

JJ

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