On 03/02/2018 10:13 PM, Tim W wrote:

Everyone knows those issues on this board and its understood.  Point being he 
asked for present day high end laptop but at the same time I will agree with 
you that for most basic use models its not so much the processor as it is ram 
amount but one thing for sure is you can not recommend a PC that one is not a 
laptop and two has no xen or qubes support i.e talon/powerpc.

I think its rather moot talking about intel backdoors when its 100% plausible 
that countless firmwares are backdoored.
Considering that the TALOS 2, KGPE-D16, KCMA-D8 and the G505S's firmwares are open source and every component such as pci-e addon cards that aren't are restricted by the IOMMU - again you give dangerous advice and suggest that people focus on some vague theoretical backdoor rather than what is a proven fact (that intel machines are owned by intel, not you) and thus tell them they shouldn't even bother with security.

I mean by those standards why use qubes at all? it probably has backdoors from all the worlds governments so you might as well just use windows 10!
Its been mentioned numerous times by Joanna Marek and others that at some point 
at this current point in consumer computing ayou must accept trust.  Whatever 
that point is may be different for different people but unless you are going to 
make a computer from silicon up and every line of code to include a compiler 
etc you must trust at some level.  Thus the whole idea of picking and choosing 
which of the possible violation is unacceptable is rather moot
So what you are saying is that because someone could have theoretically slipped some super clever backdoor in to an open source firmware it doesn't matter at all and why not just get a closed source firmware laptop with ME?

That is not at all what they are saying.

What exactly are your professional qualifications on this matter? Do you own at least one computer with open source firmware? If you are so concerned with your privacy why do you use gmail?

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