On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 1:09:59 AM UTC-8, John Smiley wrote:
> I'm interested in what and in what order, upgrades should be applied starting 
> from a base 4.0 install. I've tried several times and gotten jammed up each 
> time. I've also tried starting with 4.0.1-rc1, but had problems with that out 
> of the box where sys-whonix would die right away. 4.0 at least didn't die 
> until I tried upgrading.
> 
> There are a lot of upgrades to be applied: firefox and whonix being the top 
> two.  I've tried both upgrade orders (firefox then whonix as well as whonix 
> then firefox).  I also usually include a qubues-dom0-update.  I also 
> typically like to go with fresh template installs rather than upgrades, 
> although I've tried both and still ran into issues.
> 
> Is there a tried and true path?

Would some hardware details help?
Gigabyte X299 Aorus Gaming 3 mobo
All firmware and BIOS at latest releases
Intel Core i7-7820X CPU
32GB RAM
2 x NVMe 512GB drives (another Linux, usually Ubuntu 18.x installed on one of 
these, leaving one free for Qubes)
1 x SSD 512GB drive (Windows 10 installed here)
TPM 2.0 hardware-based module
1 x 4K display
1 x 3K display
1 x Nvidia 1080 Ti (I built this rig for gaming and then they stopped making 
good PC games - at least for my generation - I think I've aged out of all 
gaming demographics)

I have to believe that my problems with 4.0.1-rc are somehow related to my 
hardware being a bit unusual for a Qubes box.  It can't be as broken for 
everyone as it is for me.

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