On 1/4/19 5:00 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 1/4/19 1:13 PM, John S.Recdep wrote: >> On 1/4/19 1:37 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: >>> On 1/3/19 11:31 PM, John S.Recdep wrote: >>>> On 1/3/19 2:51 PM, >>>> 22rip-2xk3N/kkaK1Wk0Htik3J/w...@public.gmane.org wrote: >>>>> Thanks 799...I learned something! >>>>> >>>>> Similar to 799 but less hardcore...I always download a fresh >>>>> template(vs upgrade). In my case I ran with a full/fresh >>>>> Fedora-29 after the Fedora-28 hplip issues, and added any >>>>> new software from fresh: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/ >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> hmm, ok let's say I just use the new fresh 29 template, is >>>> there some way that I can know what non-stock software I >>>> installed on my Fedora-28 template, as I can't remember all >>>> that I may have installed .... >>> >>> >>> This is more of a Fedora question than a Qubes question. As far >>> as I know, there isn't a clean way to do this. Following Marek's >>> advice from years ago, I just keep a list of the packages that I >>> install in each of my templates. >>> >>> >>>> So, no advice on upgrading from my 28 template at this time? I >>>> find it strange that the template is in the dom0 updates >>>> available, but I see no notice in the news section on qubes >>>> website nor here ...... >>> >>> >>> See: >>> >>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4223 >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/739 > >> So, Andrew does this mean that although the Fedora-29 Template is >> available via sudo qubes-dom0-update that it still has issues and >> hence it is not officially advisable to use it ? ( whether via >> 'fresh' d/l nor 'upgrades' ? ) > >> Forgive me, am just a layman, not sure what I would expect to >> interpret from the github links (perhaps the fact that there are >> any issues provides the answer?) > >> My repos are just the default qubes 4.0+ versions > > > Well, you said you found it strange that there was no documentation or > announcement for the Fedora 29 template. These links show why: the > documentation is still being worked on, and the necessary steps prior to > the announcement have not yet been completed. (In fact, at the time of > this writing, the issue still indicates that the template has not yet > migrated to the stable repo, which appears to be false.) > > In order to avoid this sort of confusion in the future, perhaps we > should refrain from migrating new templates to the stable repo until > documentation and an announcement are ready to be published, then do > it all simultaneously. What do you think, Marek? > >
OK understood, thx for the clarification. BTW all: no luck with the suggested methods of determining what extra packages I may have installed in the fedora-28 Template ..... but I'll just live with the fresh fedora-29 template -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ecccbac3-75a7-31d0-c181-db9e172e6a72%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.