On 2019-12-02 05:47, Claudia wrote:
> Frédéric Pierret:
>>
>> On 2019-12-02 01:01, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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>>> On 2019-11-28 1:16 AM, Claudia wrote:
>>>> Andrew David Wong:
>>>>> Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS
>>>>> version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and
>>>>> EOL. [6] [6]
>>>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
>>>> Is it *possible* to upgrade dom0 to, say, F30, if we wanted to? I
>>>> seem to remember reading somewhere it's pretty much impossible, but
>>>> I haven't been able to find that article.
>>>>
>>> Not as far as I know, but Marek and Frédéric (CCed) would know more
>>> about this.
>>
>> Even if in theory, this is possible but that would mean to patch R4.0
>> with a lot of adjustments in upstream R4.1. I would discourage such
>> attempt because there is major differences between fc25 and fc30. That
>> would also mean doing the work we have done for going to dom0 fc29.
>>
>> We are going to use dom0 fc31 instead of fc29 for next release 4.1 and
>> there is also other troubles like python3 migration as python2 is
>> assumed deprecated in Fedora 31.
>>
>>>> I have a newer machine, and I've found several hardware features
>>>> that work under F30 but not F25 and not under Qubes even with the
>>>> same kernel version as tested in F30 (suggesting the Fedora
>>>> userland plays a role too).
>>>>
>>>> It seems like the 5+ version lag could be holding back a lot of
>>>> potential Qubes users. Especially considering Qubes/Xen is quite
>>>> hardware-sensitive to begin with.
>>>>
>>> It sounds like your best bet might be to try R4.1, which will run
>>> Fedora 29: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4225
>
> Thanks for the responses. That's pretty much what I was expecting to
> hear. I did install 4.1 on this machine at one point, but after
> installation it would hang at the boot splash, so I couldn't test if
> the hardware worked. Incidentally, I ran into that same issue when I
> install 4.0.2 and was able to fix it, so I may be able to get 4.1
> running this time around. (In case you're interested:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-users@googlegroups.com/msg31199.html)
>
> Is there an ETA on the F31-based 4.1 build, or is it still going to be
> a while? Is there a specific build or milestone or something should I
> be watching for? (I plan on getting the iso from openqa)

Before end of the month we hope to have a testing ISO for dev purpose.
Currently we are on upgrading Fedora installer which have drastically
changed the way of creating ISO.


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