Brian thanks for your useful reply...
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 02:03:48 +0000, Brian Inglis wrote: > Windows is using the MM timer as its high precision time source, not PM > timer, HPET or TSC. Yes. I found the entry in the application log. I checked the old XP box where ntp works well and that's using the MM timer. > This is always my sign that ntpd offset will diverge, and requires a > system restart, or more. > Also when leap=11 that is the alarm state that says there are issues. Does leap=11 mean the server is not sync'd? > Wait until reach is 377 on all sources and check again for leap=00. I removed the -M from the service executable command and rebooted. After 15 minutes I got this C:\Users\nick>ntpq -pn remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== -143.210.16.201 158.43.192.66 2 u 33 64 377 32.491 181.643 121.179 +85.119.80.233 110.116.250.33 3 u 29 64 377 29.461 59.626 88.079 +176.74.25.228 193.47.164.28 3 u 21 64 377 30.159 91.825 72.384 +176.74.25.227 193.11.166.8 2 u 32 64 377 30.065 20.692 117.706 +5.39.184.5 87.195.109.207 3 u 26 64 377 37.018 -3.686 138.898 94.228.220.14 .INIT. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 *130.88.212.143 193.62.22.90 2 u 36 64 377 37.078 62.566 93.284 C:\Users\nick>ntpq -c rv associd=0 status=0615 leap_none, sync_ntp, 1 event, clock_sync, version="ntpd 4.2.7p450@1.2483-o Jul 17 7:20:46.78 (UTC+01:00) 2014 (1)", processor="x86", system="Windows", leap=00, stratum=3, precision=-22, rootdelay=46.020, rootdisp=139.381, refid=130.88.212.143, reftime=d773f6dd.29fb24ea Fri, Jul 18 2014 20:41:17.163, clock=d773f753.cf14ee36 Fri, Jul 18 2014 20:43:15.808, peer=40459, tc=6, mintc=3, offset=67.250982, frequency=431.145, sys_jitter=54.722048, clk_jitter=36.149, clk_wander=0.139 ntp.conf... restrict default nomodify notrap nopeer noquery restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict -6 ::1 driftfile "C:\Tools (x86)\NTP\etc\ntp.drift" server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 server 1.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 server 2.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 server 3.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 server 0.nl.pool.ntp.org iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 server 1.nl.pool.ntp.org iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 server ntp2d.mcc.ac.uk iburst minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 enable stats statsdir "C:\Tools (x86)\NTP\etc\" statistics loopstats It's working! So the MM timer seems to mess up ntp on Win 7 but not on XP. This performance is marginal for WSJTX. I need 10ms offset or less after 15 minutes. I would like to have used the pool directive in ntp.conf but the development versions don't seem to process it. (The Meinberg monitor says unknown clock type.) To put it in perspective here's the performance I get on the same machine when I boot Mint 17. nick@mint17-01 ~ $ ntpq -pn remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== -129.250.35.251 192.93.2.20 2 u 50 64 377 37.766 -0.413 22.384 +176.58.109.199 131.188.3.223 2 u 51 64 377 29.532 3.113 1.482 *178.79.160.57 130.133.1.10 2 u 48 64 377 29.074 2.984 1.994 -87.117.251.3 129.215.160.240 3 u 46 64 377 29.621 1.225 1.466 +130.88.212.143 193.62.22.90 2 u 42 64 377 37.233 1.904 1.187 nick@mint17-01 ~ $ ntpq -c rv associd=0 status=0615 leap_none, sync_ntp, 1 event, clock_sync, version="ntpd 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Oct 9 19:08:06 UTC 2013 (1)", processor="x86_64", system="Linux/3.13.0-24-generic", leap=00, stratum=3, precision=-23, rootdelay=31.652, rootdisp=59.450, refid=85.234.136.65, reftime=d773f099.353d9b27 Fri, Jul 18 2014 20:14:33.207, clock=d773f2b2.69839d3d Fri, Jul 18 2014 20:23:30.412, peer=14600, tc=6, mintc=3, offset=1.095, frequency=-20.457, sys_jitter=1.518, clk_jitter=0.703, clk_wander=0.101 This uses pool pool.uk.ntp.org and server ntp2d.mcc.ac.uk. Is it possible to ever get the same level of performance on Windows 7? _______________________________________________ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions