I think your idea's a good one, but saying it wouldn't take much work
is, well, the understatement of the year, since QWS has so many thing
you *can* with it, you'd want each one demonstrated I'm sure, and
that's not to say that that's an unreasonable expectation. I think if
some of our experts in here would each take a piece of the pie,
though, then short work could be made of the whole project.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:34:33 -0500, you wrote:

>It might be a worthwhile endeavor to create a set of quick start tutorials
>with associated MIDI files so that someone could, if completely new to
>sequencers, get a handle on what it can do and how to use it.
>
>This could start with the barest basics -- loading a MIDI file and getting
>it to play. Then it could work up to the most advanced features of the
>program.
>
>This wouldn't be a hard thing to do, and wouldn't take that much to get it
>done. The first step is, of course, codifying what the individual tutorials
>are to get someone to a comfortable level of working with the program. Then
>it'd be fairly simple to just work through these steps to get a new user up
>to speed.
>
>This approach is common with many other programs -- I've encountered it in
>both Finale and Sibelius, and I seem to remember it showing up in a couple
>of DAW programs as well.
>The best thing about this project is that it'd give the users who benefit so
>much from the program a chance to give something back so that others could
>benefit from it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>James Malone
>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:25 AM
>To: QWS list
>Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications?
>
>Alright, have some thoughts from a relatively new user to QWS.
>I personally think its the easyest sequencer around, and possibly the
>most powerful when it comes to manipulating midi controls, and getting
>them to do what you want them to. I was told once to think of QWS kind
>of like a word processor, and that is for the most part, a rather PC
>way of describing it. I started to read the manual, then saw the list
>of tools. Rather than shuddering and hitting alt F4 as so many people
>seem to do, I kept on at it and played with them. After a couple days,
>I managed to get a grasp on what they all seem to do, and how they
>would work in conjunction with other features. Eventually the new user
>will come to realise that their aren't as many tools at it might seem
>at first glance, or one tool has an extensive list of things you can
>do. For example, progression. I also spoke to a couple of long-time
>users of it, and took advantage of its context sensitive help in
>addition to the manual. Would I be right in saying that even those who
>have used QwS since early days still pick up on better ways of doing
>things, or find a different way of doing something? One thing I've
>always said about music in general, is that you can never stop
>learning. Yes you might have your Beethoven's and all that, but they
>were never completely perfect (disregarding the current events around
>that time.) In short, anything you do will be a life long lesson.
>Anyway, just my thoughts on the matter.
>Cheers,
>James
>
>On 8/15/11, Steve Matzura <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Things like creating an echo effect are the same all over, whether
>> you're talking about QWS or Logic. An echo is just playing the same
>> note a couple of ticks or beats downh from the original, and usually a
>> little softer. Regardless what sequencer you're using, you just copy
>> the notes you want echoed, paste them to another track moved down the
>> appropriate number of beats or ticks, adjust the MIDI velocity or
>> volume, and you're done. QWS has no particular importance in this
>> process that any other sequencer does not have.
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:02:50 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>>I agree with Damien, but i noticed that QWS is complicated for people
>>>who are beginners in midi and who have a little knowledge about it. I
>>>know about five persons from Slovakia and Czech republic who are using
>>>QWS and they are still asking things. Mostly about ports, copypasting
>>>multyple tracks, ETC. The problem is, that people (and i too) don't
>>>thing about things a few seconds. For example how to create a echo -
>>>another track, time glide...
>>>I really want to say thanks to Andrew, who helps me with things arround
>>>QWS. I am not a perfect-quantized man who know all aspects, but i am
>>>using it for a year and it is the best solution for me, sometimes
>>>combined with Lylipond.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>D?a 7. 8. 2011 22:24, Damien C. Pendleton  wrote / napĂ­sal(a):
>>>> Hi Raymond,
>>>> In my opinion, QWS is certainly the best sequencer I have come across in
>>>> my time. I needed absolutely no help in using it, and in actual fact my
>>>> previous school over in Worcester have now started using QWS in their
>>>> music department. It was actually a member of the computer staff, Peter
>>>> Bryenton, that introduced me to QWS, and I have never, ever gone off it,
>>>> in the eight or so years I have been using it.
>>>>  From a tools viewpoint, I think it has a lot more tools than Notepad
>>>> could ever give, and though it doesn't give most of the hardcore audio
>>>> productionist elements like Cubase or Cakewalk, it is certainly enough
>>>> to be able to record pure MIDI both quickly and efficiently.
>>>> Put it this way, even recording a full ten plus track song using the
>>>> on-screen keyboard is quicker than it took me to set up and record a
>>>> single drum track in Cubase. That was my primary method of recording
>>>> MIDIs until I got my keyboard fairly recently.
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Damien.
>>>>
>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>     *From:* Raymond Grote <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     *To:* QWS list <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:56 PM
>>>>     *Subject:* QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi
>applications?
>>>>
>>>>     Hi all,
>>>>     Here's an interesting question. When I learned QWS, I didn't have
>>>>     anyone to help me out with it, just the setting up the keyboard
>>>>     part. And I had to learn most of the tools and functions myself.
>>>>     While I am a decent musician, I don't consider myself better than
>>>>     everyone. But QWS just came natural to me, a little more than I had
>>>>     expected. There are sighted people I know that know way more than I
>>>>     do, who use other programs which are not at all accessible. They
>>>>     have a whole workstation in front of them, and they can do way more
>>>>     than impport midi data and play it back, they can tweak pretty much
>>>>     every synth and effect peramitor there is. Whether they actually
>>>>     know the ins and outs of it I don't know, but it sure seems like
>>>>     they do.
>>>>     Now the question. I know people who are impressed with the work I
>>>>     do, contrary to my opinion, lol. but, they wanted to know how I did
>>>>     it, but they're sort of geared into something like I said above and
>>>>     I'm not sure exactly how to approach QWs. I initially said, "The
>>>>     manual's really good, you should understand it." I was under the
>>>>     impression that QWS's features were pretty familiar to any midi
>>>>     sequencer that knows what they're doing, and it would be
>>>>     ridiculously simple. But then an hour later they'd uninstall because
>>>>     it was either too complicated for them or too slow. I then realized
>>>>     that QWS and a DAW are pretty different, QWS is like Notepad, where
>>>>     it doesn't offer amazing functions with one clikc. You have to use
>>>>     the thirty or so tools that it provides you, in the way you want
>>>>     them, not go by some factory of presets already made for you and
>>>>     tweak it from there.
>>>>     So am I even partially right? Is QWS really complicated from that
>>>>     standpoint, or could it be lack of patience? We've all seen what
>>>>     Andre can do with it, I myself found it hard to believe that he used
>>>>     QWS at first since I'm nowhere near that level.
>>>>     Maybe some of you here have had similar experiences and can give
>>>>     more insight.
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