I fully agree with you there. Once I loaded in a 15 minute file, and was looking for different things with the find function. It found something at the very end of the file instantly. I've never! had to wait for anything to be processed or found in qWS. Even notepad with text files sometimes makes you wait, but maybe that's because text files can be bigger than midi if they're long enough. But the same can be said for midi too. I get the impression there's no real size limit with QWS, because i've tried to push it several times, I've loaded 200 k midis and it didn't complain. The only time it did, was when I tried to load in a final fantasy midi and it said the midi wasn't a valid midi file or something, so I went into Synth Font and resaved it, and then it opened fine. The sound was unaltered too, in that there were no changed controllers that i could tell, nothing really missing. By the way, I've made a new major to minor transform, it sounds more natural, instead of changing the major sevenths to minor sevenths, it keeps them where they are. So it's more of a harmonic minor scale now but the minor -sevenths in the original untransformed data are still preserved.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Onj" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications?


good morning. I cannot begin to tell you just how much of a proponent I am for QWS. I'm probably the second longest user of QWS in the world. I produced my entire album with it. Recently I went to Birmingham in the UK, not Alabama, and tought it to some students in Priestley Smith school for the blind. From the feedback I got at the end, it helped them quite a lot, and we produced some videocasts for the school intranet. If or when I get permission, I will share those on-list with you all, so you can hopefully benefit from that also. I was only there for one school-day but the students were receptive and did really seem to enjoy the demonstrations I put fourth. One of them was of course, the famous note-transform. I played the very well-known nursery rhyme old Mcdonald in F major, and used the major to minor to turn it into something rather different from the original. Picking something that people know quite well for demonstration purposes really hellped to get the point accross I feel.

Although other DAWs have such features, how many of them are as easy to use or to find as simply visiting the tools menu? How many programs are forgoing menus entirely in favour of nasty ribbons or toolbars and saying bye bye to keyboard shortcuts? too many imho.

the fact that I can run a basic set of synths on a Netbook and take QWS with me literally anywhere with access to a qwerty keyboard and write down ideas is a huge bonus to me. What I think is that a rather large section of modern computer users have very little pacients and if the product has no fancy graphics they dismiss it out of hand after 3 minutes of using it. Truely it is their loss, not ours. We know what we have. We utilise it to the best of our abilities and for myself, I'm very glad QWS came into being. For a free product, very few things come close in the midi world, of matching it. Note I said midi, not midi and audio, for we all know QWS does not support audio.

Lastly, the size of the program and lack of CPU. Both are practically non-existant, even with 32-channel midi files. Responsiveness. Fast forward and rewinde in other daws and see what happens.

That's really that for now, but just my thoughts on this Monday morning. Thank you for reading.

From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]>
on Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:52 PM

I haven't installed it yet, because I'm still waiting on some assistance to get one of my USB keyboards out of the storage space my studio is in at the
moment, but I have read the manual end to end.

One thing that struck me was its similarity to older DOS based sequencers, in that the approach tends to give you a lot of tools to work with without a lot of focus on bells and whistles. There's a very large list of things it
will do to MIDI, but it leaves a lot of other stuff to other programs.

In the computer programmer world, such a program is called a "gerbil." The
mental picture is a small gerbil busily running in its wheel, doing what
it's supposed to. Such programs are nice to find, because they handle things
rather well.

One of the points I like about QWS is that everything is done using a
standard MIDI file. This takes a step or two out of porting the sequence to a notation program if you need it, or to a DAW should that be your intent.
I plan to use QWS for my MIDI work while my studio is deconstructed for
construction of the building, as I still have work I want to get done right
now, and dragging a seven foot tall rack full of modules and support gear
into the house (with three steps to get inside, too) doesn't seem to make a
lot of sense to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Raymond Grote
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:18 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications?

That's a good point. What I was trying to figure out is why QWS is so scary
to a sighted person. It's nothing graphical, it just lays itself out in
front of you and you have to do what you need with it. And it doesn't have
as many functions but that's because it's only for midi, not even sheet
music which I could care less about it. I'm sure there are other programs
for it when I need it that I could use in conjunction with QWS. As I've said

the only reason I can even think of is that it doesn't have any quick
presets that you can just click or modify like some DAWs do.
In any case, even though QWS's usage is simple, mastering it is not. I've
had many people try QWS and play with it and figure out how easy it was to
transpose or change to a different instrument, for example. But they know
nothing about midi or theory. So it's even simple enough for them, and
that's a good thing. If they're satisfied with it, then let them be. I
really don't see how much simpler the interface could get.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications?


 Hey Raymond,

 I have to say that qws seemed quite complicated to me when i started
 working with it. Another thing, which is a big credit to Andre, as
 soon as i started listening to some of his tutorials, i found qws
 getting more and more interesting for me, and understood more of
 it. For example, i've played with note transform for several days
 after i listened andre's tutorial concerning this. I use qws for every
 sequencing work i have to do now, and it works great. Lots of
 functions qws has i miss in daws, for example the quick note editing
 and midi assignments. So may be it's an idea to point
 the daw-lovers to Andre's tutorials. One remark i also have to make
 is that some of my sighted friends found qws quite scary as well, but
 that's more about how they found it look like, and as it is mainly
 used by blind musicians, i don't care.

Hi all,
Here's an interesting question. When I learned QWS,  I didn't
have anyone to help me out with it, just the setting up the keyboard
part. And I had to learn most of the tools and functions myself.
While I am a decent musician, I don't consider myself better than
everyone. But  QWS just came natural to me, a little more than I had
expected. There are  sighted people I know that know way more than I
do, who use other programs  which are not at all accessible. They
have a whole workstation in front of them,  and they can do way more
than impport midi data and play it back, they can tweak  pretty much
every synth and effect peramitor there is. Whether they actually
know the ins and outs of it I don't know, but it sure seems like
they  do.
Now the question. I know people who are impressed  with the work
I do, contrary to my opinion, lol. but, they wanted to know how I
did it, but they're sort of geared into something like I said above
and I'm not  sure exactly how to approach QWs. I initially said,
"The manual's really good,  you should understand it." I was under
the impression that QWS's features  were pretty familiar to any midi
sequencer that knows what they're doing, and it  would be
ridiculously simple. But then an hour later they'd uninstall because
it  was either too complicated for them or too slow. I then realized
that QWS  and a DAW are pretty different, QWS is like Notepad, where
it doesn't offer  amazing functions with one clikc. You have to use
the thirty or so tools that it  provides you, in the way you want
them, not go by some factory of presets  already made for you and
tweak it from there.
So am I even partially right? Is QWS really  complicated from
that standpoint, or could it be lack of patience? We've all  seen
what Andre can do with it, I myself found it hard to believe that he
used  QWS at first since I'm nowhere near that level.
Maybe some of you here have had similar experiences  and can give more
insight.




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