Hi,
I can't promise anything, but I'll see what I can come up with. The only
format I can work with is SF2. Normally if I'd want something converted
with SF2 I would just manually do the conversion, but I haven't even had
a translator to try yet. It's normally a pretty drawn-out process, but
I'm used to it now. admittedly I've been lazy and haven't even touched
many of the things I would like to convert. Now that you brought up the
translator, I can have some fun...
Nicole Massey wrote:
That would be great. Having a way to turn freeware samples into sounds would
make life a lot easier. And if you can document the procedure I can then do
some conversions to some of my favorite Ensoniq samples so I can use them.
They have a great Sitar layer that includes drone strings, tabla, and melody
strings, as well as a wonderful hammer dulcimer and a very nice orchestral
percussion map. I also have some samples I converted from the Akai S612
format and some samples I did on my own, including a three synth organ layer
(Proteus 1 for the middle drawbars, MT-32 for the high ones, and DX7IIFD for
the bottom ones) sampled through a overdriven fender twin for that grungy
organ sound. Getting all of this converted would be great, as I could work
without needing the full studio for now.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Raymond Grote
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:29 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Bassmidi
Hi,
definitely looking into this program now. Maybe I'll try to help fix
accessibility issues.
Also that sample site sounds very nice, looking into that too.
Nicole Massey wrote:
No, though I've heard good things about it, and if we have problems
with accessibility in it one of the core programmers has said to me on
more than one occasion that he will make those problems go away.
Translator Free converts multiple sample formats to the one you
specified when you downloaded it. Yes, some things translate better
than others, but it covers a wide variety of formats. And with the
vast number of samples at www.soundcentral.com (I wonder how much
longer that site will be around) there's a good chance of finding
something that will do the job.
I'm thinking about this a lot right now, as I'm trying to get my brain
around building my own sound font bank of early music sounds so I can
have that as a good sound source for the stuff I do in that time
period. Shawm, Crumhorn, portative, and rebec samples aren't just
lying around everywhere, so I know it's going to take some work.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Raymond Grote
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:45 AM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Bassmidi
Hi,
While I see your point, not every free sample out there is what you'd
call usable. That's just what you get in the world of freebies. Of
course if you're absolutely desperate you'll use just about anything.
But I am spoiled rotten and picky. So it's ridiculously difficult for
me to find a freeby I actually like although when you get lucky it is
pretty awesome. It's amazing how a thousand dollar keyboard saves my
life every time though, because I know a lot of people who would pay a
lot more for something like that and still complain loads about it.
Anyway, back to the translator. Have you used it much? anything useful
with regards to QWS usage?
Nicole Massey wrote:
I find the contention that the sounds don't exist to be a bit
spurious. With the vast amount of public domain samples out there,
and tools like Translator Free to convert them at no cost, it sounds
like it's more a matter of effort than availability of the needed data.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Raymond Grote
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:15 AM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Bassmidi
Yes, that is a definite factor. But, another factor is simply not
having the sounds the GS standard calls for. Some of the sounds that
the GS/XG standards call for are hard to find, especially free ones.
And the paid ones are too expensive to be worth putting into the old
soundfont format, according to some. Truthfully I don't think
soundfonts are half bad especially since the format hasn't really
changed
for many years.
In any case even professional synths sometimes don't follow the
standard as tightly as they used to. For instance my keyboard's GM
instruments are fine, but some of the other instruments like XG ones
are not, because they are still using older sounds for those. Yet
some of the front panel voices specific to that keyboard would be
totally fine
to be XG instruments.
Nicole Massey wrote:
Right -- a lot of folks making soundfonts don't know the breadth and
depth of the GS standard, so they don't account for everything it
has in a normal patch and feature set. So it's a YMMV situation to be
sure.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Raymond Grote
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:03 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Bassmidi
Hi,
It's also worth noting that when a soundfont says it's GS, XG, or
whatever, it isn't fully compatible with that standard, it just has
some of those instruments. For instance, the general User GS
soundfont might have some GS instruments, but not every single one.
I haven't used that font in a very long time, so I can't tell you
what it will do, but if you go over an instrument that the soundfont
doesn't have, Bassmidi will just use the last one you selected
before that. For instance, if you go to a regular piano, and then to
a piano on a different bank that the soundfont doesn't have, it will
just use the
regular piano.
Nicole Massey wrote:
Okay, then go to the Options menu, select Instruments, and assign
the GS definition file to your Bassmidi port. This will give you
patch
names.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dewald
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:43 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Bassmidi
Hi, yes, i downloaded a GS font.
It's called GeneralUser_GS_1.44-MuseScore
On 2012/08/20 06:26 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
You don't have an INF file associated with it.
What sound font did you download? Is it a General MIDI, XG, or GS
font? If so, then you can set the instrument definition to one of
those. If it isn't, then you'll have to use something to find the
patch names and build your own inf file -- it's fairly easy, but
you have to know what it entails. I put up a good explanation of
how to do it using Excel to make everything a lot easier a while
ago
here.
For now, go to the properties, set the patch to a number between 0
and 127, then see what plays. Move that number around in
properties and you can get a good feel for what's playing and
where you have
patches.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dewald
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:06 AM
To: QWS list
Subject: QWS List Bassmidi
Hi list.
I downloaded my first font.
Importet it into Bassmidi,, set the ports to Bassmidi.
In the tracks list it's also selected.
It shows no instruments.
In the instrument list under options, what do i have to select there?
I don't know which programmes or banks to use for the instruments.
It is the .sf2 file.
What should i do from there on?
Can i just record a violin part and listen to how it sounds like?
I'm not sure how to use another synth like Bassmidi with QWS.
Thanks,
Dewald.
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