Hola.
En el mensaje uno Miguel Bedolla pregunta por que discutir la
evolucion y el creacionismo simultaneamente. En el mensaje dos
le remito un revisiones del libro Can a Darwinian Be a Christian?:
The Relationship Between Science and Religion by Michael Ruse
De nuevo, no estoy de acuerdo con Miguel en que esta discusion,
ni ninguna otra sea griga o latinoamericana o...rusa o...Las
discusiones no tienen por que tener nacionalidad. Pero es verdad,
como señalaba antes, el 99 por ciento de la literatura sobre evolucion
esta en ingles. Eso no significa necesariamente que la discusion
sea o deba ser una particular propiedad de una nacionalidad.
No faltaria mas! La discusion sobre el genoma, por ejemplo.
En cualquier, caso las teorias y discuiones sobre Evolucion
comenzaron en Inglaterra, creo.
Ligia
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:47:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Por Que?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ligia:
Estoy dispuesto a discutir la evolucion, pero no entiendo por que debemos
discutir la evolucion y el creacionismo. Mientras que me imagino que hay
muchos latinoamericanos que son estudiosos serios de la evolucion, se me
ocurre por ejemplo el sacerdote dominico mexicano Gerardo Guerra, tambien me
imagino que los unicos que estan hablando del creacionismo en latinoamerica
son los misioneros fundamentalistas protestantes, muy probablemente
bautistas.
Insisto, creo que la discusion entre evolucion y creacionismo es totalmente
Gringa y propia de la mentalidad del Deep South. Aniado lo siguiente: me he
empezado a dar cuenta como la religiosidad gringa esta contaminando a todo el
mundo. Te ofrezco dos instancias. En el templo hindu de aqui de San Antonio
tienen "Sunday School" para los ninios. Y un budista vietnamita que visito
recientemente los EE.UU. (pariente de uan familia amiga mia) se bajo del
avion con los "evangelios" del Buda bajo el brazo de la misma manera que los
misioneros bautistas andan por todos lados con la Biblia, y, una vez en
tierra empezo a castigar a su familia por no ser lo suficientemente budistas.
Su actitud era exactamente igual a la de un "preacher." Y en su tiempo libre
el senior se la pasaba viendo videos sobre las ensenianzas del Buda!!!! Nada
mas le falto decir "Sinners Repent!!!!"
Miguel Bedolla
Mensaje Dos----------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:13:41 -0000
Reply-To: "Ian Pitchford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [evol-psych] Can a Darwinian be a Christian?
Can a Darwinian be a Christian?
The Relationship Between Science and Religion
Michael Ruse
This book addresses a question at the heart of the current debate about the
relationship between science and religion, in particular between that form of
evolutionary biology known as Darwinism, and the basic tenets of the Christian
faith. That question is: can someone who accepts Darwin's theory of natural
selection subscribe at the same time to the essential claims of Christianity?
Adopting a balanced perspective on the subject, Michael Ruse offers a serious
examination of both Darwinism and Christianity. He covers a wide range of
topics, from the Scopes Monkey Trial to claims about the religious
significance
of extraterrestrials. He deals with major figures in the current
science/religion debate (for example Richard Dawkins, Stephen Jay Gould and
E.O. Wilson on the science side, as well as Arthur Peacocke, Robert J. Russell
and Keith Ward on the religion side). He considers in some detail the
claims of
the new creationism, and reveals some surprising parallels between Darwinian
materialists and traditional thinkers such as St. Augustine.
Michael Ruse argues that, although it is at times difficult for a Darwinian to
embrace Christian belief, it is by no means inconceivable. At the same time he
suggests ways in which a Christian believer should have no difficulty
accepting
evolution in general, and Darwinism in particular.
Writing with verve and avoiding technical jargon, Michael Ruse has produced an
important contribution to a sometimes overheated debate for anyone interested
in, and perhaps even troubled by these issues, who seeks an informed and
judicious guide.
Michael Ruse is professor of philosophy and zoology at the University of
Guelph
in Ontario, Canada. He is the author of many books on evolutionary biology. In
addition, he has published several hundred articles and many book reviews. He
is the editor of the Cambridge Seri
Read Chapter One:
http://object.cup.org/Chapters/0521631440WSN01.pdf
Michael Ruse
philosophy of biology (especially Darwinism)
ethics, the history and philosophy of science
Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fsu.edu/~philo/people/faculty/mruse.html
Curriculum Vitae
http://www.fsu.edu/~philo/people/faculty/ruse%20cv.pdf
Can a Darwinian be a Christian?
"The book is learned and comparatively easy to read for its heavy subject
matter."
Gerald Wisz, Christian Booksellers Association Marketplace
"This is a closely reasoned yet dramatically constructed argument that
addresses one of the fundamental issues of all time. It contains the best
explanation now available of the relation of evolutionary thought to
Christianity, and thence to religion as a whole."
E. O. Wilson, Harvard University, Author of Consilience
"Balanced and scrupulous..."
Bryce Christensen, Booklist
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Can a Darwinian Be a Christian? : The Relationship Between Science and
Religion
by Michael Ruse
Hardcover - 242 pages (November 2000)
Cambridge Univ Pr (Trd); ISBN: 0521631440 ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.88 x
9.26
x 6.25
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You will have to look hard to find a better explanation of the relationship
between basic Christian tenets and the Darwinian theory of evolution than
Can A
Darwinian Be A Christian? by Michael Ruse. The author, a professor of
philosophy and zoology at the University of Guelph in Ontario, Canada, writes
with bracing candour ("Let me be open", he begins, "I think that evolution
is a
fact and that Darwinism rules triumphant") and sophisticated sympathy to
Christian doctrine ("if one's understanding of Darwinism does include a
natural
evolution of life from nonlife, there is no reason to think that this now
makes
Christian belief impossible"). Writing this book, he also clearly had a
hell of
a lot of fun (disarming sceptical Christian readers at the beginning, he asks,
"Why should the devil have all the good tunes?").
Can A Darwinian Be A Christian? answers its title question with heady
confidence--"Absolutely!"--but the book journeys towards that answer with
circumspect integrity. Covering territory from the Scopes Monkey Trials to
contemporary theories of Social Darwinism to the question of extraterrestrial
life, Ruse applies an impressive wealth of knowledge that encompasses many
disciplines. Readers may or may not be swayed, but they can't help but be
challenged and edified by this excellent book. --Michael Joseph Gross
Synopsis
Can someone who accepts Darwin's theory of natural selection subscribe at the
same time to the basic tenets of Christianity? Adopting a balanced perspective
on the subject, the author of this book argues that, although it is at times
difficult for a Darwinian to embrace Christian belief, it is by no means
inconceivable. He suggests ways in which a Christian believer should have no
difficulty accepting evolution in general, and Darwinism in particular. He
considers in detail the claims of the new creationism, and reveals some
surprising parallels between Darwinian materialists and traditional thinkers
such as St Augustine. In range, he examines everything from the Scopes Monkey
Trial to claims about the religious significance of extraterrestrials.
Can a Darwinian be a Christian?
by
Michael Ruse
Our Assessment:
B : broad, interesting examination of whether Darwinism and Christianity clash
http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/rusem/canadbac.htm
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