Appropriation of Indian Red as 'Chestnut' (or other alternative) will be viewed by some as 'making appropriate' the label for a colour, and no doubt by other groups as cultural theft by excising reference to its origin.
Seems the best option is to recognise the actual etymology carries no semblance of offense whatsoever, and leave well alone. On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 10:44, Mark Hall <mhall89...@att.net> wrote: > > > And then there is also the issue of some people seeing it offensive and > others not seeing it offensive (and both camps are in the minority group). > Case inpoint is look at the term being used for self-identification with > California Native American groups List of Federally-Recognized Tribes in CA | > Links and Resources > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > List of Federally-Recognized Tribes in CA | Links and Resources > > The Indian Health Service (IHS), an agency within the Department of Health > and Human Services, is responsible fo... > | > > | > > | > > > I also distinctly remember in the NAGPRA brouha of 2008 on the UC Berkeley > campus when the Metis chancellor of UCB at the time told several groups the > term Indian was derogatory and shouldn't be used--a variety of California > Native Americans gave him a piece of their mind in no uncertain terms... > Best, Mark E Hall > On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 7:22:33 AM PST, T. A. Milne via R-help > <r-help@r-project.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:54:01 +1100Jim Lemon <drjimle...@gmail.com> > <mailto:drjimle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Elaine,There seems to be a popular contest to discover offence > > everywhere. Idon't think that it does anything against racism, sexism > > orantidisestablishmentarianism. Words are plucked from our vast lexiconto > > comfort or insult our fellows depending upon the intent of theuser. It is > > the intent that matters, not the poor word. Chasing thewords wastes your > > time, blames those who use the words harmlessly,and gives the real offender > > time to find another epithet. > > > Jim: This is superbly expressed. I wish that I could have saidthat! Your > posting should go down in the annals of brilliant rhetoric,alongside Dr. > Johnson's "Letter to Lord Chesterfield".cheers,Rolf > -- Honorary Research FellowDepartment of StatisticsUniversity of > AucklandPhone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276 > > To Rolf's excellent example, I would add Mandy Rice-Davies' immortal words > from the witness box. > > > > - T. Arthur Milne > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
