Hi John,

That would be great. The use of the web installer does add some complication in the installation process, so the ability to obtain only the relevant packages as part of the "stock" installation would be a very nice addition.

Dan

On 05/21/2011 01:36 PM, John Fox wrote:
Dear Dan,

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Subject: Re: [R-gui] Best GUI?

I have used the R Commander in both marketing research and a customer
analytics / data mining course for a number of years, and it has
generally worked well. Running things on the OS X side (which represents
an increasing share of the laptops owned by undergrads) is a bit more of
a challenge since they have to access it through X11 and the
installation is a bit more involved (the X11 Tcl/Tk libraries need to be
installed, but they are included with the OS X R binaries). I've gone to
using a web based installer script to install the R Commander and its
required dependencies (installing the Rcmdr package and allowing for the
automatic installation of required and suggested packages, including
suggested packages of suggested packages, results in a lot of things
being loaded that aren't needed). If you are interested, I can send that
The issue of suggested packages installed recursively is increasingly
irritating. The reason that I don't make the directly required packages
"depends" rather than "suggests" is that I don't want them loaded every time
the Rcmdr starts up. I think that I have a solution, which I'll incorporate
in the next minor version of the Rcmdr, and which I plan to release late in
the summer.

Meanwhile, if you'd like to share your script, I'd be interested in taking a
look at it, with an eye to including it on the Rcmdr installation web page.

Best,
  John

script along to you. One nice thing is that if you want to add
functionality it is fairly easy to do so via Rcmdr's plug-in
infrastructure.

Dan

On 05/21/2011 08:22 AM, Neuwirth Erich wrote:
A few places seem to have good experiences with R Commander (which is
(no offense intended) an SPSS like menu interface on top of R).
If you are a Windows based shop, yo also might want to have a look at
our package RExcel which allows to access R from within Excel and
turns R Commander's menu into an Excel menu bar.
RExcel is available at rcom.univie.ac.at



On May 21, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Charles Stangor wrote:

So I'm wondering what might be a recommended R front-end for my
undergraduate college students who are first learning statistics?  I'm
tired of paying for SPSS but I can't ask them to learn the command
lines.
Thanks

Charles Stangor
Professor and Associate Chair
Department of Psychology
University of Maryland
Executive Officer, Society of Experimental Social Psychology
http://sites.google.com/site/charlesstangor/

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