I have more evidence that points at Xcode. If you use the R.app GUI that was compiled at the time of R 3.1.1 - available here:
http://r.research.att.com/R-GUI-6783-3.1-mavericks-Release.dmg then all is well. As we discussed earlier, the code did not change at all and the underlying R version is irrelevant, so the only piece that changed since July last year when this was built was the Xcode version (and thus the compilers used). It's not clear to me at all how the Xcode version can affect NSTextView so badly, so this will require some more digging. In the meantime, please use the above R.app binary. Cheers, Simon > On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:39 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> wrote: > > Yes Simon, the 3.1.1 version works perfectly on Yosemite. This behavior > started from 3.1.2 and now is through in 3.1.3. > Cheers, > Yan > > On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Dobolyi > <dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>> wrote: > > I can confirm the problem does not occur in 3.1.1 and only started with > 3.1.2. The R.app GUI version in 3.1.1 was 6784 and in 3.1.2 was 6833, so it > seems like some regression was possible between builds within GUI version > 1.65? Build 6912 in 3.1.3 for Mavericks still exhibits the behavior as Yan > mentioned. > > Best, > > David > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Simon Urbanek > <simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>> wrote: > >> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:17 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan >> <alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Simon, >> >> It may be a silly question but shouldn’t this Yosemite bug affect the the >> 3.1.1 version as well? >> > > Yes it should, since the code didn't change since 3.1.1. > > >> I tried also to run R from the terminal and found no rendering issues there, > > That has nothing to do with it - R is not using any Cocoa for text on the > command line - and Terminal is not likely to use NSTextView. > > >> which points on the GUI - Yosemite related bug as you say. The R 3.1.1 >> version that I have (and in which this rendering problem is not present) >> runs with R.app GUI 1.65 (6784) x86_64-apple-darwin13.1.0. Does it make >> sense / is it possible to run R 3.1.3 with this particular version of GUI? >> > > Are you saying the 3.1.1 binary didn't exhibit the behavior? That would be > odd - I'll check tomorrow when I'm back at a Yosemite machine. > > Cheers, > Simon > > > >> Cheers, >> Yan >> >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Simon Urbanek >>> <simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>> wrote: >>> >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:11 PM, David Dobolyi >>> <dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Yan, >>>> >>>> I was curious if the new R update would fix this as well, so thanks for >>>> clarifying that it sadly does not. >>>> >>> >>> There were no code changes on our end. >>> >>> AFAICT this seems to be an issue in Apple's NSTextView Cocoa implementation >>> in Yosemite. Pretty much all the time is spent in [NSTextView drawRect:] so >>> Apple must have added some rather bad inefficiency to drawing text area in >>> Yosemite. As you fill the console, the response time goes down as the text >>> filed takes longer and longer to render. You can also see it in the editor >>> if you add many lines. When you clear the console, it's responsible again >>> since you don't have that many lines in the text view. >>> >>> It seems like a serious bug in Yosemite. We don't control the rendering - >>> it's all in Apple's code, so I don't see immediately how we can work around >>> that bug. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> PS. Simon, regardless of this bug, all of your hard work is very much >>>> appreciated on an invaluable program! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:44 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan >>>> <alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> wrote: >>>> Hi Simon & David, >>>> >>>> Just for the record, I've tried the new 3.1.3 version (on the same >>>> Yosemite machine) and the issue is still there. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Yan Alperovych, Ph.D. >>>> Associate Professor of Finance >>>> EMLYON Business School >>>> Tel.: +33 4 72 18 29 11<tel:%2B33%204%2072%2018%2029%2011> >>>> E-mail: >>>> alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com><mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> >>>> LinkedIN: >>>> fr.linkedin.com/in/yanalperovych/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/yanalperovych/><http://fr.linkedin.com/in/yanalperovych/> >>>> >>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Simon Urbanek >>>> <simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org><mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you both, I'll look into this as soon as I get back from travels. >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2015, at 4:23 PM, David Dobolyi >>>> <dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu><mailto:dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Simon, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your reply. I am using the Mavericks build (running on >>>> latest Yosemite), and have noticed this issue ever since I upgraded to >>>> 3.1.2: >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2015-02-23 at 4.12.35 PM.png> >>>> >>>> As an aside, I occasionally see errors in the GUI like this, and they seem >>>> to come from other apps (e.g., Dropbox): >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2015-02-23 at 4.13.09 PM.png> >>>> >>>> More importantly, I wrote Yan about a workaround, which involves changing >>>> the max.print option from the default and limiting it to 1000. This >>>> reliably stops R from slowing down over time (although how long, I don't >>>> know). However, I can replicate the basic issue easily in R with the >>>> following code: >>>> >>>> options(max.print=99999) >>>> temp <- data.frame(1:100000, 1:100000) >>>> temp >>>> >>>> This should eventually turn up on screen, and after try typing anything in >>>> the console. Typing will be extremely delayed (e.g., type hello and it >>>> will take several seconds for each letter to show up, one at a time). >>>> >>>> It's even possible to crash the GUI if you print something in a function >>>> called in a bootstrap, and then invoke a progress bar (e.g., the pROC >>>> package). Progress will be steady and then suddenly R will lock up. The >>>> moment you remove the print statement (which isn't actually printing since >>>> the progress bar is present), the same call works perfectly. >>>> >>>> I'd love to have a real fix for this other than reducing max.print. I'd >>>> dig into the source myself but can't commit the time at the moment. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Simon Urbanek >>>> <simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org><mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> Are you using the Mavericks build of R? The SL build will do that, because >>>> SL has no AppNap support - but then you can also disable AppNap (see the >>>> corresponding threads here). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> S >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:43 AM, David Dobolyi >>>> <dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu><mailto:dd...@virginia.edu<mailto:dd...@virginia.edu>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Yan, >>>> >>>> Are you still seeing this issue? 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