Sorry for the double posting.  Please disregard.

Jon Wilson wrote:
> Brian Harvey wrote:
>> 1.  My original point was that the word "progress" automatically puts
>> people in the frame of mind that says things should keep changing -- it's
>> a very loaded word that distorts people's understanding.  Rather than find
>> a definition, we should agree to use a more neutral word, such as "change,"
>> so as not to introduce unexamined presuppositions into the discussion.
> If I might invoke the names of my betters,
> 
> 
>     /In the days when Sussman
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Jay_Sussman> was a novice,
>     Minsky <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Minsky> once came to him
>     as he sat hacking at the PDP-6 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-6>./
> 
>     "What are you doing?", /asked Minsky./
>     "I am training a randomly wired neural net
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network> to play Tic-tac-toe
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tic-tac-toe>", /Sussman replied./
>     "Why is the net wired randomly?", /asked Minsky./
>     "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play",
>     /Sussman said./
> 
>     /Minsky then shut his eyes./
>     "Why do you close your eyes?" /Sussman asked his teacher./
>     "So that the room will be empty."
>     /At that moment, Sussman was enlightened./
> 
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