Is there a haml2html & sass2css? Would be great to do the rapid dev in haml and then convert to html for designers to work on....
Cheers, Nigel Rausch On 12/06/2009, at 3:47 PM, Chris Lloyd wrote: > Perhaps checkout the html2haml and css2sass programs which are > packaged with HAML. > > 2009/6/12 Bodaniel Jeanes <m...@bjeanes.com> > Advantages: > > * easy to change and manage templates > * no ugly erb snippets everywhere with conditional statements > * much better in diffs > > Disadvantages > > IMO, one reaaaaaaly big one. HAML (and SASS for that matter) is > code, so it's great for developers. However, developers generally > can't and shouldn't be doing design. That's what designers are for. > Designers shouldn't have to learn a new language to do what they do > best -> html, css, and pretty colours. Suddenly they can't use the > tools that make THEM efficient and effective. > > I think using HAML is a bit of an anti-pattern (not the right word, > but hopefully you get my gist), it encourages the coders to do the > front-ends and that usually results in atrocious user experiences or > extremely data-driven designs. > > The whole idea behind HAML was to make HTML more manageable so you > spend less time on it. Ultimately in my experience on real projects, > it can have the opposite effect, especially in the early stages of > development. Either the designer is slowed down if you force them to > learn it, or they do all the css and styleguides in separate > documents, and the developer(s) have to spend time converting them > to HAML/Sass and repeating this conversion for each correction, > revision, or re-design. This takes a LOT of time and can be a lot of > manual labour. > > So, in summary: i use haml on small projects where design isn't > important or I am doing it (always ugly, of course), but for client > projects or bigger projects where design is someone else's > responsibility and talent, I actively prevent the use of haml. > > Bo > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael A. <michael....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I'm new around here though I've been using rails on and off since > around 0.13. > > Something that's been on my todo for a long time is to check out HAML. > I've started converting a few templates, at first I thought it was > great. So much clutter removed. But as I started doing more templates, > I found I didn't really find HAML templates any easier to read (maybe > the brain just gets used to cancelling out the noise in HTML?). I did > like not having to type close tags all the time and the consistency it > brings to your markup. > > So... what are your thoughts on HAML? Are there other major advantages > I should know? > > Cheers, > Michael > > > > > > > > -- > chrislloyd.com.au > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
