Hah, fair point. I don't really hear about demand beyond Ruby work, so my view of the bigger picture is definitely flawed.
-- Pat On 16/02/2011, at 10:47 AM, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: > Though the Sydney shortage seems to be for > Ruby/Java/Ajax/JavaScript/.NET/HTML5/HTML4/HTML3/Linux sort of gig. > > Just saying. > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Pat Allan <p...@freelancing-gods.com> wrote: > It seems there's generally a Ruby developer shortage - NYC, Chicago, London, > Melbourne, Sydney... at what point does such an unbalanced employment market > become a liability? > > -- > Pat > > On 16/02/2011, at 10:31 AM, Warren Seen wrote: > > > This is most likely a clear sign that there's a shortage of competent Ruby > > devs in NY as well as Chicago (see: > > http://nuts.redsquirrel.com/post/2680658687/chicagos-ruby-developer-crisis) > > - time to raise my hourly rate again! > > > > All jokes aside, maybe it's because E3 visas are easier to deal with than > > H1-B visas from an employer's perspective? The E3 is exclusive to > > Australians, and from what I've read, only a fraction of them are taken up > > each year, compared to H1-B's which are oversubscribed. > > > > Cheaper doesn't factor into it, as my understanding is that an employer > > will need to offer the equivalent of what a US worker would make anyway, > > i.e. you can't import labour at below market rate. Factor in relo costs, > > etc, plus the real risk that some people may pack it in and come back home, > > it's probably significantly more expensive than hiring locally. > > > > (Also, as far as I'm aware, Pivotal pair ATFT or close to it, so if they > > hired you, they'd want to pair with you regardless of where you're from. :P) > > > > > > On 16/02/2011, at 9:53 AM, Tim McEwan wrote: > > > >> At first I thought they must be so keen to employ us because we're cheaper > >> (are we?). But they want to pair. I wonder why they're so keen to pair > >> with Aussies... Maybe there's just no American devs left - maybe @github > >> has finally succeeded. > >> > >> -- > >> Tim McEwan > >> > >> On Wednesday, 16 February 2011 at 00:01, Rich@thelogicbox wrote: > >> > >>> Sure you couldn't be tempted stateside? > >>> Targeted recruitment for Aussie Rail's devs. > >>> http://www.seek.com.au/Job/move-to-new-york-10-x-aussie-software-engineers-asap-with-pivotal-labs/in/melbourne/18983303 > >>> > >>> Good to see to new found pivotal revenue stream is being put to good > >>> use. > >>> Rich > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en.
