I have never tried taking them off-road. The casing seems very
durable. But the tread did get a couple of cuts after not many miles
of pavement riding, and that might be a cause for concern. They could
probably handle some dirt paths, but probably no Rough Riders type
stuff.

On May 13, 10:02 pm, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting... do you think the "Challenge" can hold up to trail use?
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Gino scared me away from the GB also. Instead, I gave the Challenge
> > Parigi-Roubaix a try and liked them a lot.
>
> > They have slightly more volume than the RT and RP, and so far have
> > been puncture free. They ride a lot like the RP (i.e. no RT thud),
> > although I've found their grip to be a little unsure in damp turns. No
> > crashes yet, however.
>
> > The one thing I don't particularly care for in the Parigi-Roubaix is
> > the herringbone tread. It makes a lot of noise, and I suspect the
> > herringbone pattern might account for some of the slippage I've felt
> > in turns. If they came in a simple slick they'd be so much better!
>
> > A
>
> > On May 13, 9:14 pm, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not
> > > just me (and my hot shed).
>
> > > Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy
> > > Fasty are like.
>
> > > I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for
> > > that under the rear brake arch.  Tempted to try out some Grand Bois
> > tires,
> > > but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-)
>
> > > I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to
> > see
> > > a crack in your tire!
>
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and
> > > > they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about
> > > > unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them
> > > > soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared
> > > > to have tons of tread left.
>
> > > > I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far
> > > > neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did.
> > > > Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the
> > > > thinner tread on the RP and JB green.
>
> > > > If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they
> > > > ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that
> > > > the RTs do.
>
> > > > Aaron
>
> > > > On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years.
> >  Yet
> > > > > another pair is starting to separate along the tread:
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/
>
> > > > > That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed.  It's exposed
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there
> > > > isn't
> > > > > ozone from a motor in there).  Also, these aren't brand new tires,
> > but
> > > > are
> > > > > several years old.  Most I bought used.
>
> > > > > Buuuuuuttttt, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la
> > Vies,
> > > > and
> > > > > one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX
> > > > > bikes.  NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are
> > significantly
> > > > > older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years).
>
> > > > > Has anyone else had this problem?  The cracking/separation is very
> > > > > consistent, right along the "line" separating the different squares
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > surface pattern.  Sidewalls are fine.  Low miles on 'em, you can
> > still
> > > > see
> > > > > the cross-file tread in the squares.
>
> > > > > Note:  this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance
> > Armstrong,
> > > > just
> > > > > simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed.   Am I doing
> > > > something
> > > > > wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other
> > tires?
>
> > > > > This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not
> > > > getting
> > > > > my $$$ out of them.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > David
> > > > > Redlands, CA
>
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
> > > Redlands, CA
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
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