Dave ..  .  I appreciate your input.

 I wish I could use an XD w/175mm arms .  .  . oh I wish I could. I'm
used to it though, it's the "outside the norm" tax :)

Your Carmina, their appears to be two versions, one with both sides of
the arms anodized, the other with a bead blasted interior arm. Which
is yours? . .  as apparently they take different BB's according to
Peter White.

What was the BB length before you ran into the clearance problem of
the RF ring?

Your 119 Phil BB, by centered do you mean it's symmetrical?


In regards to the FD, with a 46t ring, the vintage Deore I have has
plenty of room left to drop. Something like that may work with smaller
rings.

-Garth
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