I have one carbon, one titanium, one steel with carbon fork, one steel with steel fork. Each has a slightly different ride personality but all get me there at about the same time. Given one, I'd choose titanium in one second. On Friday, April 18, 2014 10:31:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: > > > I'm talking ride quality only, not function. > Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full. > > Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc. > > I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them. > Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they > do hundreds of miles a day, culminating in a 3,000 mile race finish in less > than 10 days. You gotta be comfy on your bike to a certain degree to > survive a 3,000 mile ride in 10 days or less. You can't really argue with > that. Yeah, they are athletes,and suffer, but read on... > > I'm starting to think that no frame material is better than another when > at the higher quality levels and craftsmanship. And I think RAAM blows it > all outta the water. RAAM has been ridden on just about everything I would > think. I don't think these people are dummies, and I am sure they have done > their homework to find what suits their needs. I think it's just preference > at that point. I don't know that Jure Robic (5-time RAAM winner) would have > done any better, or felt any better, on a Herse, Scott, Lightspeed, or > Roadeo. Someone once asked him how his behind felt during RAAM, and he > stuck his fingers in his mouth imitating a gun. I don't think that would > have changed no matter what he was riding (and it looked like a studded > leather saddle in the documentary I saw). > > Now function is another thing altogether. You want braze-ons and wide > tires and clearance, approach a steel frame builder for sure. > > I needed to ride through mud and gravel to continue on my way today and I > was glad I was on my fender-ed Rivbike with 42 mm tires and not on a 25mm > tire-ed race bike. > > I'm not going to touch safety and lifetime issues of materials. The battle > rages. > > Anyway, since I got my head out of carbon, and have been reading a lot > about steel, I have been wondering. Because everyone seems to love their > quality bikes, no matter what the material is. > >
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