I'll take what I can get! :-) I wouldn't be riding it loaded, so just interested in how it feels during regular rides. Like I mentioned, Bleriots kind of felt over-built (for me) and I'm wondering if the Sams are similar. I think the comparisons to the Trek & Specializededededed are valide, so that's good to know.
Thanks! On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Phil Roberts <lugsnst...@gmail.com> wrote: > David, > I have to admit that I've not ridden my wife's Bleriot more than 40 miles > around my side 'o town so I don't know how it would feel loaded on a dirt > road with a grade. But I will say that the Sam is a capable touring bike, > not stiff feeling, and very easy to pedal with load on a grade. I'm not a > crusty 3000+ mile tourer but the Sam handles a load with ease and even with > its weird (to me) sloping top tube is a very nice ride. I'm comparing this > to my '83 Specialized Expedition, which I love dearly, and a myriad of Trek > 520s and a 620 I've owned over the years. The Sam is anything but stiff > feeling. > > Disclaimer: I weigh 168lbs. The SH is the only bike I own that I don't clip > into. I happily pedal with my Chacos. If the world as we know it ended, I'd > probably load up my Expedition and pedal to my secret hideout. Other than > that, I would have no trouble choosing the Sam to go almost anywhere. And my > decision may just be based on familiarity and time-in-saddle. > > Phil > AZ > > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Looks like this is the quote: >> "Own both. Built up a 52 cm Hillborne but it turned out to be too long in >> the top tube for my wife. Bought and built up a Bleriot and she's now >> quite happy. In the mean time I was able to ride the Hillborne a couple of >> times on my daily commute and took it for a 3 day dirt road camping tour >> this summer. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Now it looks like I inherited it, not >> that I need another bike. >> >> Hillborne: Nice relaxed geometry, steady when turtling up steep inclines, >> braze-ons for cantis and front/rear racks. My example has some weird lump >> beneath the paint on the bottom bracket shell and there's evidence of sloppy >> brazing beneath the paint on the seat tube lug. Neither is likely to cause >> structural problems but still kind of irritating on a $1000 frame. >> >> Bleriot: Doesn't quite fit me (too small) but my wife looks "right" on >> it. Braze-ons for rear rack only. Nice neutral steering, same comfy feel >> from the 650B tires. I've heard of sloppy paint on some but I must've got >> lucky. Even though the Bleriot frame has a slightly rising top tube it >> looks more conventional compared to the Hillborne's top tube." >> >> How 'bout the tubing and stiffness vs. liveliness of the two? That was my >> only dig at my Bleriot: a bit stiff and too solid feeling. I've read that >> Salukis feel a bit lighter, so wondering of the Sam compares. >> >> Cheers, >> DE >> >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Phil Roberts <lugsnst...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I have both. I recently commented, and it'll be in the archives. >>> >>> Phil Roberts >>> Chandler, AZ >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:50 AM, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Isn't that custom paint amazing! I hope that's becoming a good seller >>>> for RBW as it seems like a great bike. >>>> >>>> Anyone have any comments as to how it compares to a Bleriot? >>>> >>>> DE >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alan at EcoVelo recently got his hands on a Sam Hillborne. He's posted >>>>> some beautiful images of it over at his blog. Check them out. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ >>>>> >>>>> I'm really thinking that the addition of one of these bikes would >>>>> round out my quiver nicely. I'd use it as my camping all--rounder >>>>> bike. I doubt I'd set it up with those fenders but it sure does dress- >>>>> up nicely. >>>>> >>>>> --mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> David >>>> Redlands, CA >>>> >>>> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something >>>> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, >>>> scientist guy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> David >> Redlands, CA >> >> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something >> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, >> scientist guy >> >> >> > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
