IIRC correctly, the Bleriot tubing mimicked the Salutki's tubing. The SH is somewhere between that and that Altantis, so it should be a bit stouter...
Doug On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:51 PM, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll take what I can get! :-) I wouldn't be riding it loaded, so just > interested in how it feels during regular rides. Like I mentioned, Bleriots > kind of felt over-built (for me) and I'm wondering if the Sams are similar. > I think the comparisons to the Trek & Specializededededed are valide, so > that's good to know. > > Thanks! > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Phil Roberts <lugsnst...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> David, >> I have to admit that I've not ridden my wife's Bleriot more than 40 miles >> around my side 'o town so I don't know how it would feel loaded on a dirt >> road with a grade. But I will say that the Sam is a capable touring bike, >> not stiff feeling, and very easy to pedal with load on a grade. I'm not a >> crusty 3000+ mile tourer but the Sam handles a load with ease and even with >> its weird (to me) sloping top tube is a very nice ride. I'm comparing this >> to my '83 Specialized Expedition, which I love dearly, and a myriad of Trek >> 520s and a 620 I've owned over the years. The Sam is anything but stiff >> feeling. >> >> Disclaimer: I weigh 168lbs. The SH is the only bike I own that I don't >> clip into. I happily pedal with my Chacos. If the world as we know it ended, >> I'd probably load up my Expedition and pedal to my secret hideout. Other >> than that, I would have no trouble choosing the Sam to go almost anywhere. >> And my decision may just be based on familiarity and time-in-saddle. >> >> Phil >> AZ >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Looks like this is the quote: >>> "Own both. Built up a 52 cm Hillborne but it turned out to be too long in >>> the top tube for my wife. Bought and built up a Bleriot and she's now >>> quite happy. In the mean time I was able to ride the Hillborne a couple of >>> times on my daily commute and took it for a 3 day dirt road camping tour >>> this summer. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Now it looks like I inherited it, not >>> that I need another bike. >>> >>> Hillborne: Nice relaxed geometry, steady when turtling up steep inclines, >>> braze-ons for cantis and front/rear racks. My example has some weird lump >>> beneath the paint on the bottom bracket shell and there's evidence of sloppy >>> brazing beneath the paint on the seat tube lug. Neither is likely to cause >>> structural problems but still kind of irritating on a $1000 frame. >>> >>> Bleriot: Doesn't quite fit me (too small) but my wife looks "right" on >>> it. Braze-ons for rear rack only. Nice neutral steering, same comfy feel >>> from the 650B tires. I've heard of sloppy paint on some but I must've got >>> lucky. Even though the Bleriot frame has a slightly rising top tube it >>> looks more conventional compared to the Hillborne's top tube." >>> >>> How 'bout the tubing and stiffness vs. liveliness of the two? That was >>> my only dig at my Bleriot: a bit stiff and too solid feeling. I've read >>> that Salukis feel a bit lighter, so wondering of the Sam compares. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> DE >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Phil Roberts <lugsnst...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I have both. I recently commented, and it'll be in the archives. >>>> >>>> Phil Roberts >>>> Chandler, AZ >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:50 AM, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Isn't that custom paint amazing! I hope that's becoming a good seller >>>>> for RBW as it seems like a great bike. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any comments as to how it compares to a Bleriot? >>>>> >>>>> DE >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan at EcoVelo recently got his hands on a Sam Hillborne. He's posted >>>>>> some beautiful images of it over at his blog. Check them out. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm really thinking that the addition of one of these bikes would >>>>>> round out my quiver nicely. I'd use it as my camping all--rounder >>>>>> bike. I doubt I'd set it up with those fenders but it sure does dress- >>>>>> up nicely. >>>>>> >>>>>> --mike >>>>>> >>>>> > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
