I have to second Deacon's take on this. The people at RBW consider service part of their life work. I've never experienced a gram of resentment for any question I have sent their way..
Part of the answer to your question depends on the bars you are choosing and the style of riding, as well as the stem. I'm assuming from your frame choices that you are thinking of noodles or something similar. These are basically go fast frames and I would point out to you that if you get the bars much above the saddle you may find it more awkward to stand up and rock the bike on hard climbs; I know I do. Experience always trumps theories. Michael On Friday, May 16, 2014 5:30:01 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Hey Doug, > > In my experience, the wonderful folks at Rivendell never consider calls a > waste of time. Heaven knows I've bent their ears on things with no direct > connection to a sale, they've been marvelously helpful, and I buy from them > whenever I can, including when their prices are higher by a wee bit. It > seems they are in this because they love what they do and they want to help > you enjoy bicycling. That leads to sales for them and very high customer > loyalty. > > Especially when it comes to sizing their bikes, no one knows how to do > that like Rivendell. Call them. You will not be wasting their time or yours > no matter the outcome. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Friday, May 16, 2014 3:24:27 PM UTC-6, Doug Williams wrote: >> >> I don't have a Riv now, I'm trying to decide between a 54 San Marcos or a >> 57 Roadeo. My PBH is 85 cm and my SH is around 74 cm. How high and low I >> can put the bars relative to my saddle is an important deciding factor for >> me. But I don't have the info I need to plug into the bike calculator. So >> if I can't get the info I need from the Riv geometry charts, I'll have to >> call Riv and waste their time. >> >> I suppose it would be better to make a trip to Riv and measure them >> myself. Your suggested measurement method is exactly what I want to do. I >> would go with a quill on both the Roadeo and the Marcos, so that >> measurement should be easy. If I go to Riv, I can test ride both the 54 San >> Marcos and the 57 Roadeo while I'm at it. I'm not that close, but what the >> heck? :-) >> >> >> Doug >> >> On Friday, May 16, 2014 2:02:18 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: >>> >>> Maybe try this: http://www.bikecalculator.co.uk/createamap.htm >>> (or google bicycle geometry calculator to see other variations) >>> >>> Caveat-- theory may not be the same as reality when you go to set it up. >>> >>> If you're mechanically inclined, then just perform the experiment: >>> Loosen the stem bolt and put it all the way down-- measure. >>> Raise the stem to the min insertion line (i.e., max height)-- measure. >>> >>> You can estimate a change to another stem if you know its relationship >>> to the one you have. (e.g., Tallux vs Dirt Drop) >>> >>> Have fun! >>> shoji >>> >>> >>> On Friday, May 16, 2014 4:52:02 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: >>>> >>>> I want to be able to look at the Rivendell Geometry Charts and figure >>>> out how high or low I can have the handlebars relative to my saddle >>>> height. >>>> Since I know my saddle height, I just need to know the distance from front >>>> dropout to the top of the head tube. >>>> >>>> Since I know my saddle height, this should be easy to figure. Yes, I >>>> would have to add in the BB drop, but that shouldn't be too hard. I figure >>>> that the seat tube angle and head tube angles are close enough to not make >>>> a big difference in my answer. >>>> >>>> Is there a way I can figure this out without calling Riv and wasting >>>> their time? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Doug >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
