Patrick, To your benefit, I think the 57's and smaller sizes use lighter tubing than the 59's and up. Also, threadless headsets save quite a bit of weight and are stiffer. I have a conventional quill stem, but I have lighter bikes if I feel the need.
On Monday, July 7, 2014 6:29:58 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thanks, Don. If you ever decide that your switch from Ram to Roadeo was > mistaken, drop me a line. (Add smiley face to indicate that I am kidding.) > > Actually, don't bother, because I need a 57. You're safe. > > Seriously, the Ram is a wonderful bike. I does encourage me to push, > unlike other bikes that seem to "mute" one's efforts. But I think to myself > that, even more desirable would be a similarly fitting bike that is several > lbs lighter and slightly more nimble in handling. The Ram is an excellent > all rounder -- if our dirt around here wasn't so sandy as to require 2"+ > tires, it would be a wonderful, more road-like "country" bike with 35 mm or > fatter tires -- 35 mm Kojaks leave considerable space between tire and > metal. > > We'll see about that Bertin. I'd build it up as a stripped down gofast > with a 1XN drivetrain or perhaps this would be the one to build up with a > S3X hub run with a freewheel. > > Actually, I'd do better to fret less and ride the bikes I have more. > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Don Compton <dpc...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Patrick, >> I hope you find your Roadeo. I used to own a 60cm Ram and always >> regretted selling it. I eventually bought a 59cm Roadeo and it's my >> favorite bike. Only slightly lighter and the handling is just a little more >> responsive without losing the Rivendell stable feel that I really like on >> fast, bumpy, curvy downhills. Good luck. >> >> On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:15:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> I love the Ram; it just "feels" right -- in the sense that it >>> "encourages" hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain >>> your effort. >>> >>> But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to "turn >>> in"; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line >>> stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I >>> really, reeeeeeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram >>> as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my >>> '03 handles those duties. >>> >>> I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss >>> trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and >>> I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In >>> particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. >>> >>> My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- >>> long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my >>> brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a >>> Rivendell. >>> >>> -- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >>> Other professional writing services. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis >>> >>> ************************************* >>> * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to >>> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from >>> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* >>> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to >>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind >>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into >>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your >>> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is >>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was >>> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, >>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where >>> in your time and your body can they be?* >>> * "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. >>> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where >>> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of >>> you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis > > ************************************* > * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to > never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from > it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* > * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to > look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind > it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into > somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your > daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is > all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was > any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, > because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where > in your time and your body can they be?* > * "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. > "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where > Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of > you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
