+1 on that.  I'm riding Hetre EL on PL23 with Stans goo, and have yet to 
flat in a few months of daily commutes through the mean streets.  Yes - I 
can have my bacon and eat it too.  Yum yum!!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:20:43 PM UTC-8, David G wrote:
>
>
>  I essentially never get flats with Hetres. Perhaps because I run them 
> tubeless with Stan's sealant. In 4-5 years riding Hetres and now 
> Babyshoes in Madison WI, San Fran, and San Diego, I have experienced a leak 
> on two occasions that I can remember, requiring mid-ride adding of air, but 
> I have never gotten a bona fide flat. Knock wood. I love these tires! For 
> those of you who run Hetres/Babyshoes (or any other high volume, low 
> pressure tire) with tubes, why don't you try tubeless? 
>  
> - David G in San Diego
>  
>  
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Eric Norris <campyo...@me.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>  
>>  Obviously, Jan H. is lucky not to have to deal with this on a daily 
>> basis:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/pM2AGC 
>>
>> His flat-free experience would be much different, I think, if he had to 
>> ride in these conditions.
>>
>> P.S. Today’s ride: No flats!!
>>
>> —Eric N
>> campyo...@me.com <javascript:>
>> www.campyonly.com
>> www.wheelsnorth.org
>> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @campyonlyguy 
>>
>

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