Oops. This reply should be for Joel. Yes, they did collaborate. One of Jan's rando bikes was a Rivendell.
http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/BQRandonneurBike.pdf -- Rene -----Original Message----- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoelMatthews Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:42 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell? > The frame I'm basing my requests on was (I believe) a Grant designed Heron with Jan Heine's input as a > consultant. Did Grant and Jan Heine ever work together on any projects? Those are two good bicycle minds but also two very opinionated minds as well. It sure would have been fun to listen in. Kind of the bicycle equivalent of Robert Altman and John Ford getting together to make a film. On Oct 27, 12:57 pm, Jeff <newbe...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote: > I'm of the same mind as Benz. I don't think what I'm looking for will > conflict with GP's design philosphy. The frame I'm basing my requests > on was (I believe) a Grant designed Heron with Jan Heine's input as a > consultant. One of my favorite features is the 80mm bottom bracket > drop which seems to be right up there on Rivendell's list with keeping > your bars high. > > I'm also going for the post mounted Paul Racers. I rode with guy on a > red custom Rivendell who had the posts for Mafac Racers. Fire Chief > from around Seattle named Andy-- great guy and a strong rider! > > Doug, you make interesting points about French constructeur forks > designed for low trail so as to handle well with a front load. The > fork rake on my Heron is 4.3 cm. What do you think about that with > regard to trail? The bike handles fine both with and without a > Berthoud bag. I do get a little bit of shimmy while riding no hands > with rear low rider panniers added, but that's not my standard set up. > > I've got a NOS Suntour V-GT Luxe rear derailleur (which Frank Berto > speaks highly of in The Dancing Chain) for the 7 speed drive train. > > Jeff > > On Oct 26, 10:45 pm, benzzoy <benz...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Oct 26, 9:34 am, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Grant says exactly that in his notes on custom bike ordering. He suggests that > > > you look at Rivs carefully to be sure that your interests align with the RBW gestalt. > > > > "I absolutely listen to your wishes and input, and in fact require it, want it, and use > > > it. But ultimately it is our name that goes on the bike, so certain consistencies and > > > standards must be met, for it to bear our name. For that reason, before ordering a > > > Rivendell custom, it's important to familiarize yourself with our values and style, > > > and make sure we're a good match. " > > > I'm familiar with that entry, and that's why I stated that I'll see if > > I can fit my nice-to-have list in. > > > I do want a Rivendell fitted to me but I also have a preferred list of > > features, as a custom bike should. If the items on the preferred list > > clashes with the Rivendell design, then I'll definitely go with > > whatever Grant is recommending since I do want the bike to handle, > > look and feel like a Rivendell. Otherwise, why bother? > > > Nevertheless, except for the PegoRichie tubing bit and maybe the front > > rack bias*, I believe the items on my list are quite aligned with the > > Rivendell philosophy. In fact, I've already spoken to Grant a while > > ago about most of the items and he seemed quite agreeable to them. > > However, the longer the wait, the longer the list grows! I'm certain > > and in fact expecting that Grant will remain his steadfast self and > > filter out that which will compromise his design. Yes, this will be > > Grant's design for me. :> > > > Cheers, > > Benz > > > * this may be nothing at all since I'm not asking for a porteur > > bicycle! I only want to carry a small front bag like a Berthoud > > GB2286, Acorn Boxy Rando Bag or Guu-watanabe Retro (if the CFO goes > > raving mad, LOL!)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
