on 10/27/09 10:49 AM, Jeff at newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
 
> Okay, so it was a Kuzma project?  I think I got the last of these from
> Todd in May 2007 as he was shutting down Heron.  It looks to me like
> most production Rivendells (except the Ram) tend to have more rake
> (like 5 or 5.2) than I'm used to, so I may well get improved handling
> with a bag, though perhaps not at the level of Herses and Singers of
> old.

Not to open up an endlessly rehashed can o' worms, but the rake (offset) of
the fork itself is only one of the variables in determining fork trail. A
good calculator, such as JimG's will show how different values of HA, tire
size, etc., interact.

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

And, fork trail itself is only one of the variables which determines the
ride of the bicycle. Opinions and experiences with high trail and low trail
has certainly generated a ton of posts on the topic (visit the ibob archives
for a couple days' worth of reading - let's not replicate it here.)  I think
it's tempting to focus just on that aspect, as far as bike handling is
concerned, but it is just a part of the bigger picture.  Changing one thing
- rake, trail, HA, bb height, wheelbase - changes everything, and there are
always tradeoffs.

Of course, the big variable of rider technique and position, plus the type
of terrrain and conditions in which one rides, plays a huge part.

- Jim

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