I had no idea. Maybe that means somewhere in a Hollywood vault exists a film called "Stagecoach to Nashville"
Thanks for the links. On Oct 27, 5:29 pm, "Rene Valbuena" <valbu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Oops. This reply should be for Joel. > > Yes, they did collaborate. One of Jan's rando bikes was a Rivendell. > > http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/BQRandonneurBike.pdf > > -- Rene > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoelMatthews > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:42 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell? > > > The frame I'm basing my requests on was (I believe) a Grant designed Heron > with Jan Heine's input as a > > consultant. > > Did Grant and Jan Heine ever work together on any projects? Those are > two good bicycle minds but also two very opinionated minds as well. > It sure would have been fun to listen in. Kind of the bicycle > equivalent of Robert Altman and John Ford getting together to make a > film. > > On Oct 27, 12:57 pm, Jeff <newbe...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote: > > I'm of the same mind as Benz. I don't think what I'm looking for will > > conflict with GP's design philosphy. The frame I'm basing my requests > > on was (I believe) a Grant designed Heron with Jan Heine's input as a > > consultant. One of my favorite features is the 80mm bottom bracket > > drop which seems to be right up there on Rivendell's list with keeping > > your bars high. > > > I'm also going for the post mounted Paul Racers. I rode with guy on a > > red custom Rivendell who had the posts for Mafac Racers. Fire Chief > > from around Seattle named Andy-- great guy and a strong rider! > > > Doug, you make interesting points about French constructeur forks > > designed for low trail so as to handle well with a front load. The > > fork rake on my Heron is 4.3 cm. What do you think about that with > > regard to trail? The bike handles fine both with and without a > > Berthoud bag. I do get a little bit of shimmy while riding no hands > > with rear low rider panniers added, but that's not my standard set up. > > > I've got a NOS Suntour V-GT Luxe rear derailleur (which Frank Berto > > speaks highly of in The Dancing Chain) for the 7 speed drive train. > > > Jeff > > > On Oct 26, 10:45 pm, benzzoy <benz...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Oct 26, 9:34 am, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Grant says exactly that in his notes on custom bike ordering. He > suggests that > > > > you look at Rivs carefully to be sure that your interests align with > the RBW gestalt. > > > > > "I absolutely listen to your wishes and input, and in fact require it, > want it, and use > > > > it. But ultimately it is our name that goes on the bike, so certain > consistencies and > > > > standards must be met, for it to bear our name. For that reason, > before ordering a > > > > Rivendell custom, it's important to familiarize yourself with our > values and style, > > > > and make sure we're a good match. " > > > > I'm familiar with that entry, and that's why I stated that I'll see if > > > I can fit my nice-to-have list in. > > > > I do want a Rivendell fitted to me but I also have a preferred list of > > > features, as a custom bike should. If the items on the preferred list > > > clashes with the Rivendell design, then I'll definitely go with > > > whatever Grant is recommending since I do want the bike to handle, > > > look and feel like a Rivendell. Otherwise, why bother? > > > > Nevertheless, except for the PegoRichie tubing bit and maybe the front > > > rack bias*, I believe the items on my list are quite aligned with the > > > Rivendell philosophy. In fact, I've already spoken to Grant a while > > > ago about most of the items and he seemed quite agreeable to them. > > > However, the longer the wait, the longer the list grows! I'm certain > > > and in fact expecting that Grant will remain his steadfast self and > > > filter out that which will compromise his design. Yes, this will be > > > Grant's design for me. :> > > > > Cheers, > > > Benz > > > > * this may be nothing at all since I'm not asking for a porteur > > > bicycle! I only want to carry a small front bag like a Berthoud > > > GB2286, Acorn Boxy Rando Bag or Guu-watanabe Retro (if the CFO goes > > > raving mad, LOL!)- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
