Patrick,
Versatility as you described will top my list of features when I am next 
shopping for a new-to-me vehicle.  I have also given much thought to an 
enclosed travel trailer, that could permanently house a family of bikes and 
be easily towed when travel called-a bike shed on wheels.  Of course, I 
also harbor fantasies of living car free!  :)

On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 3:53:33 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> This is why I always drive vans of some sort that allow the rear seats to 
> be removed. Currently, my '06 PT Cruiser will easily carry 2 medium bikes 
> inside with front wheels removed, while still accommodating 2 in people in 
> the front (57-60 c-c frame equivalents). I bet I could get 4 inside with 
> both wheels removed.
>
> My erstwhile 1984 Acadiane would take at least 4 with front wheels on; at 
> least, it would take a fully assembled '80s Ken Rogers racing trike with 
> room to spare and no hassle with the roofline.
>
> A Sprinter seems the ideal solution for a family of bikes. My own *beau 
> ideal* is a Transit Connect in full tradesman's kit -- basic white, no 
> rear seats, rubber mats, etc etc.; clean it out with leaf blower (as I did 
> for my '90 Voyager after it was stripped of 2d and 3d row seats, interior 
> cladding, trim, carpeting; and after my daughter had decorated the interior 
> with Magic Marker and I had applied almost 150 stickers to the outside.)
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:19 AM, KC <kathys...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> This info is very helpful as we will be purchasing a carrier 
>> immediately.  Turns out the fork paint damage on my beautiful new bike was 
>> likely caused by the current carrier (Yakima hitch-mount swing away).  
>> Although we couldn't figure out how it could be happening, the person 
>> loading the carrier (rude to name him) has been extremely concerned about 
>> my bike and tried a new position yesterday resulting in nice scrapes on the 
>> back side of the frame.  Best guess is even though they were loaded at the 
>> far ends of the 4-bike carrier, my bike was attacked by the other bike's 
>> brake lever.  I will likely have to take Keven's advice to stop crying and 
>> put on clear nail polish and then cover with reflective tape.  At 
>> this point I will be quite nicely reflecting on one side of the bike.  
>> Since I'm hoping to not continue the process and the carrier loader is 
>> trying to avoid being killed, looks like we will probably buy a new carrier 
>> immediately.  
>>
>> It kills me to see my mixtie hanging askew on the hanging racks (and why 
>> is only my bike getting scratched up?), especially when we add the 2 
>> kiddo's bikes into the mix.  I've considered the attachment to create the 
>> cross bar on my bike, but it seems like an accident waiting to happen. 
>> Somehow it seems a platform would be more "organized".  We have other 
>> hanging carriers (quit using them because we replaced with a swing-away to 
>> have access to the back of the vehicles).  It helped me to see the above 
>> comments and wanted to see if there are any updates that would be of use to 
>> us. After reading the above, I think I am right about the platform being 
>> maybe a little better for the mix of bikes and am a little leery of further 
>> experimentation with my bike on the hanging carrier.  I don't think we 
>> could easily handle a roof mount and the roof top is reserved for 
>> a kayak anyway.. 
>>
>> We drive a Subaru Outback and Jeep Grand Cherokee, moving the carrier 
>> back and forth.  If we had a 4-bike carrier on, we probably wouldn't get 
>> out of our own driveway without scraping so raising the hitch up would 
>> probably be important.  Most of the time it would be 2 bikes - standard 
>> road bike with fenders and my Cheviot. But we also need the option to bring 
>> along 2 bikes for young kids.  I've been looking at the ones for 2 that 
>> accommodate an add-on for an additional 2.  It would be most useful for it 
>> to be swing-away so we could easily access everything.  It is important 
>> that we can secure the bikes well as they could be unattended out of sight 
>> sometimes (although we are careful about that).  And loading/unloading 
>> shouldn't be an ordeal so we can it frequently - we have a mix of short (30 
>> min to 1 hr) drives to start riding and long trips. 
>>
>> I will look at all the recommendations above, but appreciate any updated 
>> input.  Thanks.
>>
>> (I think my optimal solution is a diesel sprinter with 4 captains chairs 
>> and a fold-down sofa in the rear to seat 3 and sleep 2 as queen size bed, 
>> with plenty of storage space between sofa & captains chairs for neatly 
>> organized "equipment", partnered with a 23' toy hauler for more 
>> accommodations for a longer trip.  I think we could make that work. Makes a 
>> new carrier look pretty inexpensive, even if unplanned) 
>>
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