This is the large Berthoud HB bag, 2586.  I bought it from Boulder 
Bicycles, who advertise a "custom stiffiner."  Perhaps that is what I am 
looking at, an Al (??) piece of flat metal on three sides of the bag.  It 
is a little less than half the width of the leather strip.  It would take a 
sharp bit and some patience to drill 4 holes in it and even then it looks 
like it would challenge the length of the 4 bolts, so I'm guessing just 
going through the leather, below the metal  is appropriate.

Michael

On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 05/02/2015 01:46 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: 
> > I have the new decaluer in hand but find myself unsure if it bolts 
> > through the steel at the top of the bag or just through the leather 
> > under the steel?  The latter certainly would be simpler and it ought 
> > to suffice to stabilize the top of the bag. 
>
> What kind of bag do you have? 
>
> The Berthoud bags do not have any metal, just cloth reinforced with a 
> leather strip at the top rear.  The decaleur bolts through that. 
>
> I also have a Kirtland Tour Pak handlebar bag.  That one in addition to 
> the leather strip at the top rear also has sheet metal inserts at the 
> bottom of the bag and at the back.  When I hacked that and installed a 
> Berthoud decaleur on it I drill all the way through leather and sheet 
> metal. 
>
>
>

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