Yes, exactly. On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 6:16:14 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote: > > I remember J Heine discussing installing a U-shaped Al plate piece at top > of the bag (U is the width facing you and the 2 sides) and removing the > fiber/plastic stiffeners. He claimed it reduced the weight and > improved holding the bag in the proper shape. > > Does your bag have this U-shaped Al plate??? > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 5:12:21 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: > >> This is the large Berthoud HB bag, 2586. I bought it from Boulder >> Bicycles, who advertise a "custom stiffiner." Perhaps that is what I am >> looking at, an Al (??) piece of flat metal on three sides of the bag. It >> is a little less than half the width of the leather strip. It would take a >> sharp bit and some patience to drill 4 holes in it and even then it looks >> like it would challenge the length of the 4 bolts, so I'm guessing just >> going through the leather, below the metal is appropriate. >> >> Michael >> >> On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: >>> >>> On 05/02/2015 01:46 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: >>> > I have the new decaluer in hand but find myself unsure if it bolts >>> > through the steel at the top of the bag or just through the leather >>> > under the steel? The latter certainly would be simpler and it ought >>> > to suffice to stabilize the top of the bag. >>> >>> What kind of bag do you have? >>> >>> The Berthoud bags do not have any metal, just cloth reinforced with a >>> leather strip at the top rear. The decaleur bolts through that. >>> >>> I also have a Kirtland Tour Pak handlebar bag. That one in addition to >>> the leather strip at the top rear also has sheet metal inserts at the >>> bottom of the bag and at the back. When I hacked that and installed a >>> Berthoud decaleur on it I drill all the way through leather and sheet >>> metal. >>> >>> >>>
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