Thanks JB! I have a Hoss bag just like yours, but don't know what I
would do w/ the tent if I used it. Although bivies are the new tents!
Did you ever use panniers, and was that any different than the big
rear bag? It seems like bag or panniers wouldn't really matter that
much differently as they are both over the rear axle???
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Joe Broach <joebro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> My Canti-Rom is probably pretty close in terms of flex (8-5-8 OS, 63cm).
> I've found rear rack load + any kind of front load unleashes the shimmy
> monster. It's been best with a big rear saddlebag and light front load. OK
> with big saddlebag + light front rack load + front low-riders. Try a giant
> rear saddlebag and then carefully add to the front is my advice.
>
> Best,
> joe broach
> pdx or
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:10 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting observations!
>> I have the lugged seatpost just cuz' I love how it looks :-) I don't
>> have the saddle all the way back in it as that was never the
>> intention, but can try moving it a touch forward. I ride loaded pretty
>> rarely, so for 98.7% of my riding everything is fine.
>>
>> FWIW my Quickbeam with Jitensha bars and a front load rides fine
>> no-handed. But that's w/out a rear load at all.
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM, sameness <samen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You have a lugged Nitto seat post, so I'm guessing you are looking for
>> > more
>> > setback than something bog standard of that vintage (late '90s-early
>> > '00s?)
>> > natively affords.
>> >
>> > None of this helps you with no-hands, something I've never been able to
>> > accomplish confidently on any GP design ('92 X0-1, '99 Road Custom). I
>> > am
>> > also bad at bikes.
>> >
>> > But I have found that if you weight up the front more with RIDER than
>> > you
>> > would otherwise given our current collective insight into "Higher,
>> > shorter,
>> > backer, better!", you wil peg it down enough to tame the attendant
>> > geometries o' the age. I can't explain it, but I have $400 in stem, bar
>> > and
>> > post experiments that are happy to bear witness.
>> >
>> > I'm sure someone better at math and geometry and trail and and and might
>> > be
>> > able to explain/disprove this on paper, but my experience of bikes from
>> > that
>> > era are that they need some weight up front, and often attendant to the
>> > weight up back.
>> >
>> > I spent five years struggling with Albatross bars on my XO-1... until I
>> > went
>> > with a 13cm stem, kept the height at roughly saddle nose, and moved the
>> > saddle forward eeeeeverso. Suddenly the squirrel was tamed. The further
>> > forward I was, the less wander-y things got on all counts, loaded or
>> > not. I
>> > basically mimicked the load of a lower M-bar, as it was designed for. It
>> > was
>> > still high(er), it was just further out than made sense.
>> >
>> > I even have a rack and basket on the front. Heretofore impossible, if
>> > not
>> > still heresy.
>> >
>> > Do you ride a lot on the tops or hoods? Go drops, hooks, ramps, put more
>> > weight over the front, and see how you go. Drop the stem an RCH. Move
>> > the
>> > saddle up some.
>> >
>> > Anyhoo. Our miles may vary.
>> >
>> > Jeff Hagedorn
>> > Los Angeles, CA USA
>> >
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>>
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