With the caveat that I haven't tried a super stiff rear rack (e.g.
Tubus/Nitto), for whatever reason the same weight in the Hoss/Camper is way
less likely to cause shimmy for me on this bike. Part of the issue might be
my big feet (size 12s) mean panniers have to slide pretty far back. Even
with tiny panniers, it took concentration to hold a line. The worst was
when I had a small rubbermaid mounted on top of a light rear rack (Nitto
R15). That would shimmy with just a jacket back there!
In the second photo, I have a one-man tent + groundsheet on the front rack
(except for the poles). I've been using a bivy lately.
Best,
joe broach
pdx or
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:24 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks JB! I have a Hoss bag just like yours, but don't know what I
> would do w/ the tent if I used it. Although bivies are the new tents!
> Did you ever use panniers, and was that any different than the big
> rear bag? It seems like bag or panniers wouldn't really matter that
> much differently as they are both over the rear axle???
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Joe Broach <joebro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > My Canti-Rom is probably pretty close in terms of flex (8-5-8 OS, 63cm).
> > I've found rear rack load + any kind of front load unleashes the shimmy
> > monster. It's been best with a big rear saddlebag and light front load.
> OK
> > with big saddlebag + light front rack load + front low-riders. Try a
> giant
> > rear saddlebag and then carefully add to the front is my advice.
> >
> > Best,
> > joe broach
> > pdx or
> >
> > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:10 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting observations!
> >> I have the lugged seatpost just cuz' I love how it looks :-) I don't
> >> have the saddle all the way back in it as that was never the
> >> intention, but can try moving it a touch forward. I ride loaded pretty
> >> rarely, so for 98.7% of my riding everything is fine.
> >>
> >> FWIW my Quickbeam with Jitensha bars and a front load rides fine
> >> no-handed. But that's w/out a rear load at all.
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM, sameness <samen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > You have a lugged Nitto seat post, so I'm guessing you are looking for
> >> > more
> >> > setback than something bog standard of that vintage (late '90s-early
> >> > '00s?)
> >> > natively affords.
> >> >
> >> > None of this helps you with no-hands, something I've never been able
> to
> >> > accomplish confidently on any GP design ('92 X0-1, '99 Road Custom). I
> >> > am
> >> > also bad at bikes.
> >> >
> >> > But I have found that if you weight up the front more with RIDER than
> >> > you
> >> > would otherwise given our current collective insight into "Higher,
> >> > shorter,
> >> > backer, better!", you wil peg it down enough to tame the attendant
> >> > geometries o' the age. I can't explain it, but I have $400 in stem,
> bar
> >> > and
> >> > post experiments that are happy to bear witness.
> >> >
> >> > I'm sure someone better at math and geometry and trail and and and
> might
> >> > be
> >> > able to explain/disprove this on paper, but my experience of bikes
> from
> >> > that
> >> > era are that they need some weight up front, and often attendant to
> the
> >> > weight up back.
> >> >
> >> > I spent five years struggling with Albatross bars on my XO-1... until
> I
> >> > went
> >> > with a 13cm stem, kept the height at roughly saddle nose, and moved
> the
> >> > saddle forward eeeeeverso. Suddenly the squirrel was tamed. The
> further
> >> > forward I was, the less wander-y things got on all counts, loaded or
> >> > not. I
> >> > basically mimicked the load of a lower M-bar, as it was designed for.
> It
> >> > was
> >> > still high(er), it was just further out than made sense.
> >> >
> >> > I even have a rack and basket on the front. Heretofore impossible, if
> >> > not
> >> > still heresy.
> >> >
> >> > Do you ride a lot on the tops or hoods? Go drops, hooks, ramps, put
> more
> >> > weight over the front, and see how you go. Drop the stem an RCH. Move
> >> > the
> >> > saddle up some.
> >> >
> >> > Anyhoo. Our miles may vary.
> >> >
> >> > Jeff Hagedorn
> >> > Los Angeles, CA USA
> >> >
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