I think the OP is talking about the Sturmey-style Sunrace shifters that Riv recently started offering. This one: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/shsrbe.htm Somewhere on the website there's a description of how this shifter's indexing works, and it seemed a little wonky – one click for most shifts, but two clicks for a few. I can't find it now. I imagine it would be very easy to accustom yourself to, and once accustomed it would become second nature. But they're not THAT much cheaper than the Silver shifters mounted on the IRD quill mount, which combo is, I think, the bee's knees for the Bullmoose Bosco bars that beg to be installed on a Clem/Clementine.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cyclofiend Jim Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:27 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters The clicking is probably an internal ratchet mechanism. On an indexed shifting system, the click of the lever or button corresponds directly to a shift up or down in gearing. That is not the case here. The ratchet just reduces the tendency of the lever to move - the cable is under slight tension from the spring in the derailleur. Don't really see the phrase you are quoting (the "strange grouping of shifter to gears...") but I'm only going by the Clem page and pdf. - J On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 12:22:37 PM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: Jim, that does help and I appreciate the response. I am just confused as to why Riv says it is a strange grouping of shifter to gears. It seems that you'll hear the click in the shifter but that may not necessarily coincide with a shift. Anyway, I'm an amateur in this area and am just confused. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:02:37 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Hey there Doug - Welcome to our merry band.... Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a bike with friction shifting. By that, I mean that it's the shifters themselves which create the indexing. So - as long as derailleur is compatible with the shifting mechanism (some systems use 1:1 cable pull, others 2:1) and the shifter has as many steps as the number of cogs (8 speed shifters for 8 cogs, 9 for 9, 10 for 10, 11 for 11, etc...) it will work. If that's what you are comfortable with, then there's no reason not to use them. But, if you have a chance to ride with a simpler, more direct connection like the silver or other shifters, you may find it more intuitive and simpler. I've found that the most indexed systems tend to start shifting well and then slouch towards entropy. Kind of feel that you end up tweaking and tending to rather than riding (especially if you tend to ride in a variety of conditions and terrain). There are plenty of RBW riders who have Shimano or Campagnolo shifters on their rigs. hope that helps! - Jim On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this setup. Cheers, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ============================================================================== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
