The answers are yes, yes,  and yes.  That's all there is to it. Over 50
flat free miles and counting.

Doug

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 09:39 Shoji Takahashi <shoji.takaha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
> I'm considering tubeless set up for my Loup Loup Pass EL (650B x 38) on
> Velocity Synergies. I've had a number of rear-tire flats the past two weeks
> from glass bits. Puts a damper on the nice ride.
>
> For the conversion: did you use the tubeless valves and stan's tape? And
> then add the Orange Seal via injector? Is that really all there is to it?
>
> Thanks for your help/advice,
> Shoji
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote:
>>
>> I converted my Babyshoe Pass EL's on Pacenti SL23 rims to tubeless
>> yesterday. So my 58cm 650B Homer is running SMOOTH. Everything is great so
>> far, I'll followup with a long term report after some more miles. Some
>> preliminary observations:
>>
>> From what I had read, I was expecting a battle; but seating the tires was
>> actually quite easy. I didn't want water inside the tires, so I used no
>> soapy water or lubricant of any kind. I had an injector for the Orange Seal
>> sealant, so I added the sealant AFTER the tires were seated. In short, the
>> tires were seated while completely dry. Here is how I did it.
>>
>> First, I seated the tires in the normal manner with an inner tube. Then I
>> broke ONE bead and removed the inner tube. I installed the tubeless tire
>> stem. Then I worked my way around the rim and pulled the loose bead outward
>> on the rim to seat it as best as I could. It wasn't fully seated of course,
>> but somewhat close. Then I just pumped the tire up and seated it, didn't
>> even remove the valve core (as some recommend for faster air flow) because
>> my pump fit the valve stem better with the core in. It was actually quite
>> easy to seat the tire with my floor pump! Full disclosure, I have the high
>> volume Lezyne Dirt Floor Drive Pump, but really I think any floor pump
>> would have worked. My daughter seated one of the tires and I seated the
>> other. Easy both times. I think the key is to have one bead completely on
>> and the second bead pulled in close like I did.
>>
>> So far I'm quite satisfied with tubeless. My goal was to avoid having to
>> use a heavy commuter tire because I really love the ride of the Babyshoe
>> Pass EL's. I see no weight savings with tubeless and I don't care. If there
>> is a difference in performance I can't tell. I was already using Schwalbe
>> SV14 light (130 gram) inner tubes and the ride was sweet (when I didn't
>> flat). I'm interested only in flat protection because with all the goat
>> heads and other thorns around here flats were annoyingly common with tubes.
>> I probably used more Orange Seal than necessary, but we will see. I'll
>> probably carry two inner tubes and a patch kit as emergency backup, so
>> again...no weight savings. But if I don't get flats, it will be worth it. I
>> use my bike to commute to work. It is only 5 miles each direction, but I
>> get up early and extend my morning commute somewhere fun to get a 90 minute
>> or so morning ride. I don't want to be fixing a flat out in the boonies at
>> dawn before work. Been there, done that!
>>
>> So hopefully tubeless will be the answer for me...time will tell.
>>
>> Doug
>>
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