Shoji, >From what I have read, putting the sealant in the tube is somewhat effective in reducing flats, but it is not anywhere as good as going tubeless because the thin inner tube just won't seal as well as a thicker tire. Still worth trying, but don't expect a flat-free miracle.
Doug On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:49:34 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Thanks, Joe. I'm thinking of putting Stans or Orange into the tube. I've > got Schwalbe tubes, and I think they have a removable core. Shouldn't be > too hard to put in some sealant. Downsides of that? Some added weight? :) > > shoji > > > > On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:26:07 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote: >> >> Proceed with caution, Shoji. I don't think synergies are "tubeless ready" >> (i.e. not designed to keep a tire on without a tube). Some people have had >> success just putting the sealant in the tube, though. >> >> Best, >> joe broach >> pdx or >> >> Caveat lector. Sent from a phone. >> On Jul 20, 2015 9:39 AM, "Shoji Takahashi" <shoji.t...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Doug, >>> I'm considering tubeless set up for my Loup Loup Pass EL (650B x 38) on >>> Velocity Synergies. I've had a number of rear-tire flats the past two weeks >>> from glass bits. Puts a damper on the nice ride. >>> >>> For the conversion: did you use the tubeless valves and stan's tape? And >>> then add the Orange Seal via injector? Is that really all there is to it? >>> >>> Thanks for your help/advice, >>> Shoji >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: >>>> >>>> I converted my Babyshoe Pass EL's on Pacenti SL23 rims to tubeless >>>> yesterday. So my 58cm 650B Homer is running SMOOTH. Everything is great so >>>> far, I'll followup with a long term report after some more miles. Some >>>> preliminary observations: >>>> >>>> From what I had read, I was expecting a battle; but seating the tires >>>> was actually quite easy. I didn't want water inside the tires, so I used >>>> no >>>> soapy water or lubricant of any kind. I had an injector for the Orange >>>> Seal >>>> sealant, so I added the sealant AFTER the tires were seated. In short, the >>>> tires were seated while completely dry. Here is how I did it. >>>> >>>> First, I seated the tires in the normal manner with an inner tube. Then >>>> I broke ONE bead and removed the inner tube. I installed the tubeless tire >>>> stem. Then I worked my way around the rim and pulled the loose bead >>>> outward >>>> on the rim to seat it as best as I could. It wasn't fully seated of >>>> course, >>>> but somewhat close. Then I just pumped the tire up and seated it, didn't >>>> even remove the valve core (as some recommend for faster air flow) because >>>> my pump fit the valve stem better with the core in. It was actually quite >>>> easy to seat the tire with my floor pump! Full disclosure, I have the high >>>> volume Lezyne Dirt Floor Drive Pump, but really I think any floor pump >>>> would have worked. My daughter seated one of the tires and I seated the >>>> other. Easy both times. I think the key is to have one bead completely on >>>> and the second bead pulled in close like I did. >>>> >>>> So far I'm quite satisfied with tubeless. My goal was to avoid having >>>> to use a heavy commuter tire because I really love the ride of the >>>> Babyshoe >>>> Pass EL's. I see no weight savings with tubeless and I don't care. If >>>> there >>>> is a difference in performance I can't tell. I was already using Schwalbe >>>> SV14 light (130 gram) inner tubes and the ride was sweet (when I didn't >>>> flat). I'm interested only in flat protection because with all the goat >>>> heads and other thorns around here flats were annoyingly common with >>>> tubes. >>>> I probably used more Orange Seal than necessary, but we will see. I'll >>>> probably carry two inner tubes and a patch kit as emergency backup, so >>>> again...no weight savings. But if I don't get flats, it will be worth it. >>>> I >>>> use my bike to commute to work. It is only 5 miles each direction, but I >>>> get up early and extend my morning commute somewhere fun to get a 90 >>>> minute >>>> or so morning ride. I don't want to be fixing a flat out in the boonies at >>>> dawn before work. Been there, done that! >>>> >>>> So hopefully tubeless will be the answer for me...time will tell. >>>> >>>> Doug >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
