I've gotten at most two flats on Big Bens in 2.4 years.

They are great on dirt, not sure about gravel.

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> On Aug 29, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Surlyprof <jmcclu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> We see mud only if we spill our drink in the dirt.  Of course, if that drink 
> was water, the spill will be followed by the appropriate scornful looks.
> 
> Thanks for posting the photos.  How have the Big Bens been for flat 
> protection and riding on gravel?  Most of my commute is along a gravel path 
> and then (sometimes glass covered) city streets.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 3:16:17 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>> 
>> I ride Big Ben 50's on my Sam a lot, and it has sidepulls. It's why I think 
>> it's such an amazing bike. The 50's are the limit of the bike's tire 
>> clearance, and if there were mud, I'd have some interference problems. But 
>> do Californians know what mud is anymore?
>> 
>> One of the shots shows a two millimeter clearance with the fender tab, but I 
>> don't worry about it:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/15646856530/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/15831687195/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/15645878559/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/15646528257/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Surlyprof wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 on the maroon and creme.  They don't do reds often but, when they do, 
>>> they do it well.  Can't justify the purchase when the bike looks so similar 
>>> to my canti-Hillborne.  I am wondering if this is a variation on the 
>>> Hillborne with capability for wider tires.  If so, that would be fantastic. 
>>>  This has got me wondering about adding the Big Ben 50s to the Sam.  It 
>>> handles the 45 Smart Sams well (and I love the bouncy, smooth trail ride) 
>>> but it is getting a little tight around the chainstays.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:24:35 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>>>> Love that maroon w/cream
>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:44:34 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>>>> now there is a reddish 55cm up. am i looking at a hunq fork crown on 
>>>>> these guys? it seems like the slightly more affordable, slightly more off 
>>>>> roady line up they are working towards is gonna be pretty cool and well 
>>>>> timed, trend wise.  
>>> 
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