Bill, just had a chance to check and I can release those VO Grand Cru 
cantilevers and they more than easily clear the tires even with that Surly 
rack stopping them. Pleeeeenty of clearance. Which, really seems to be the 
raison d'etre of the Clems.

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 12:47:25 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Looks like you thought of just about everything.  Best wishes getting 
> acquainted.  
>
> Why did you run continuous shift housing all the way back to the Rear Der? 
>  
> Do your front brakes QR open enough to get your front wheel out?  Or does 
> the rack get in the way?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 6:32:25 AM UTC-8, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>
>> Updated my photos with the complete build done (except wrapping the bars, 
>> it's my couple days of fiddling with fit and dialing it in before that). 
>> Tim, that Surly Nice Rack just barely fits, but fits it does. Had to max 
>> out the bracket heights and it just barely caught braze-ons. Can't use it 
>> on the upper braze-on at the fork end, it'll block QRs, so you have to 
>> mount it where the fender would go and then mount the fender to the lower 
>> rack bracket instead. Not a big deal, I've done that on the last two bikes 
>> that rack lived on too. It's a tight fit at the mid fork ones, so, I 
>> wrapped them with some tape first to minimize scraping and scuffing, but 
>> all in all, was actually the easiest time I've ever had installing that 
>> rack.
>>
>> Got in to work this morning and a coworker who admires Riv bikes and has 
>> been waiting to see mine caught me at the door and insisted on getting my 
>> photo with it. It's a nice looking rig all built up, but it'll take me a 
>> couple more rides to get used to how it rides. With the albastache I have 
>> about the same lean to the bars I did on my 650b Rivenfried mid-80's Fuji 
>> this replaces, except the bars are like 5" higher up. My body is confused 
>> because half of it's like my previous build and half is like my 3-speed 
>> roadster. Rides pretty well though. Those Switchback Hill tires are dreams, 
>> I tell ya. A little prone to wobble no-handed, I need to check the headset 
>> adjustment and wheel stabilizer tension tonight. Otherwise, it's off to a 
>> promising start.
>>
>>
>> https://onedrive.live.com/?id=C37EE9A2EAE73EA9%21454124&cid=C37EE9A2EAE73EA9&group=0&authkey=%21AJFYm5zGTQyGk3U&v=photos
>>
>> Link again to the photos, just to save scrolling back and what-not: 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bDrtVdwnZbs
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 1:10:44 PM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good Zed, nice build. I'm curious to see how the front surly rack 
>>> looks on there, keep the photos coming!
>>
>>

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