I used a rapid rise derailer with friction shifters for several years on my 
load carrier. I could never get the reverse motion to become intuitive. 
This of course after decades of "normal" shifting. I finally, this fall, 
replaced the rapid rise with a normal rear derailer. For now when I drop my 
rear hand to the level, there is just a brief moment of indecision. But I 
am sure I can be cured of my imperfect indoctrination given enough time on 
the lever.

Joe "in GJT where it's all snow bike all the time right now and it was -3F 
for my morning commute and gawd I miss New Mexico" Ramey

On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 12:28:37 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
>
>  Rapid Rise was doomed before it even started !  If it was such a great 
> idea then why didn't they make all shifting that way, mtb and road ?  ... 
> _______ .....  exactly .  Saying it was good for some and not the other 
> right there doomed it.  A solution to problem that didn't exist. 
>

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