dstein,

If you think the Hunqapillar and the Sam Hillborne ride the same you will 
likely think the Sam and the Hilsen ride the same too.
As you pointed out Grant has said the Sam and Hilsen are functionally 
interchangeable, though there are differences between them.

I haven't ridden a Hunqapillar much, but I do have a first generation 
Bombadil and an AHH. For riding mostly roads I prefer the AHH. I think they 
ride differently, with the AHH being more responsive and the Bombadil being 
more stable. But it's possible that in a blind (if that were possible) test 
with the same components and position on each frame I wouldn't be able to 
tell the difference. 

How would you like your next bike to seem different than your Hunqapillar? 
What attributes would make a "better bike" seem better to you? 

I think you live in the east bay, in which case it could be well worth your 
while to bop over to RBW and test ride Hunqapillar, Hillborne, Hilsen, 
Roadeo back to back to ....

Btw what tires do you have? Earlier you posted there were Smart Sams on 
there, now Compass. Are your Compass tires Rat Trap Pass or a smaller size?

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 5:09:20 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote:
>
> I actually do have compass tires on there now ;)  And that is my fear. I 
> felt the hunq and sam rode the same honestly and since i liked the hunq 
> more i sold the sam. And I've heard the sam and ahh ride the same (grant's 
> words).
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Clayton.sf <clayt...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Get some compass tires for your hunq- it will be much faster. If you want 
>> really fast, look into skinny flexy tubing or some vintage 531 and compass 
>> tires. The AHH likely won't be that huge of an upgrade.
>>
>> Clayton Scott
>> SF, CA
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