I see no reason you couldn't put drops on the Joe, as long as you sized the bike for them. I don't see much difference in Geometry between the San Marcos, the Sam and the Joe. I see quite a few Sams and San Marcos pictured with drop bars. The Joe seems about 1cm longer in the top tube than the Sam and 1.5cm longer than a San Marcos so you might need a shorter stem, or you could downsize to a more compact style geometry. So it might actually be easier to obtain a bars below saddle position (long and low) on a properly sized Sam than on the San Marcos.
Just as a comparison to my 56cm Rambouilet with a 56 cm top tube with 2deg upslope, and a 72deg seat angle. I could order a 51cm Joe that would have a 56.5cm top tube and a 71.5deg seat angle, so the reach to the bars would be about the same. The 51cm frame has a 6 deg top tube slope that would bring the headset exit point about 1cm lower than the Ram. I have plenty of quill on my Nitto Tech Dlx still in the steerer so I could just raise the stem a cm and have the exact same bar position. I will note that the size fitting charts recommendations on the riv pages do this, put someone on a 56cm Ram on a 51cm Joe. -Dave J On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:56:01 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: > > I ride with bars 1.3 below saddle. > That maxes out my blue Sam. But I'm at 1.3 below saddle and it is great. > If I wanted lower I'd have to cut the steerer. > But I don't want lower. So it works out great. > However, when I bought it I didn't know you couldn't go any lower on this > bike. If I was someone who liked lower, I would have had to return the > frame. > > The Joe, and all the other sub-2k$ frames look like you can't get > handlebar height below saddle. Someone would have to confirm. They look > like they have really high exit points, sloping tubes, and steerer stacks. > If this is true, then there would no longer be sub-2k$ RBW frames > available, new, for people who like riding bars below saddle. Just making > an observation. Someone would have to confirm. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
