Shawn,

This thread has taken off on wheels and tires, so I'd like to propose
another factor to consider - position.

I have an old Riv Road Standard that was my go-fast bike for many
years.  After a gap of a few years spent mostly riding a recumbent I
returned to the Riv and took it on a few rides with the local club.
Now, this club as a rule rides fast and hard (cruising at 20+, bursts
to 28 mph on the last flatland ride I did with them), and I found that
sitting relatively upright on the Riv was not working for that kind of
effort.  I tried adjusting the Riv for a sportier position, but wasn't
able to get it to 'gel'.  I wound up falling into a deal on a modern
racing frame with a slightly shorter top tube and steeper seat angle
than the Riv, and darned if I'm not both faster and more comfortable
*for that kind of riding*.  It may be heresy around here, but racers
ride racing bikes for a reason.  When I'm taking it easy on my own or
riding with a slower friend I don't ride the racer, it would beat me
up too much.  That's when I ride either the Riv (with the bars back up
where Grant intended and the widest tires that will fit), or my 650b
wheeled Kogswell, either of which are more at home at an easier pace.

The AHH is built to be even slacker and more upright than my old Riv
Road was.  I'd say try light wheels and tires on the AHH as a go-fast,
but recognize that it may not let you get into an optimal position for
sporting riding.  If it's not what you need, and a new Roadeo is out
of reach, start scanning Craigslist or ebay for something used that
might work better for you.  There are deals to be had if you're
patient - my go-fast frame cost me just over 1/3 of the price of a new
one, and it looked essentially new when I picked it up.

Bill

On Dec 3, 6:34 am, Shawn <sa240...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Now that I have the Atlantis, I have been thinking of making my Hilsen
> more of a roadish type bike to use on week-end rides with my friends
> on our smooth local MUP. Can anyone tell me how the AHH might handle,
> ride and look with 25mm to 28mm tires on it. I know most people don't
> ride that skinny of a tire but any feed back would be appreciated.   I
> am trying to separate the two bikes into two distinct categories;
> Atlantis- touring, camping, commuter= big tires; Hilsen- club rides,
> events, exercise, go faster=skinner tires. It seems like the Hilsen’s
> clearance are wasted now that I have the Atlantis.
>
> I know it sounds like I want a more traditional type road bike and the
> Roadeo would fit that bill perfectly, except there is the matter of
> finances, can’t sell the Hilsen to totally finance the Roadeo, and I
> am not crazy about the fact the Roadeo does not have brazeons for at
> least a Mark type rack.
>
> Is the Rambouillet a better road bike than the Hilsen? If so maybe I
> should trade or sell my Hilsen for a Rambouillet. I want to be clear
> that I do not want to race, I just want to make a clear distinctions
> between the two bikes.
>
> Sorry about the long post and thanks in advance for any advice or
> feedback.
> Shawn

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