Thanks for all the information and advice, folks. It will help me decide whether or not to install an elegant but heavy Alfine system.
Alex On Dec 7, 9:21 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > Simplicity as in one shifter to cover a wide-range of gear ratios. A 1X9 > system would work just as well, but I've observed newbies/kids don't get the > whole two-shifters thing. > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: > > > I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set > > > up. I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to > > > thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH. Also, IGHs seem like > > > a cool deal for kids who are learning to shift and/or someone learning > > > or re-learning to ride. Simplicity is nice! > > > Other than needing to keep pedalling while the shift completes, what's > > any more difficult about derailleur shifting than IG hub shifting? I > > find brifter action confusing - but then, I seem to be the only one who > > does, and I find twist grip shifters confusing, too. Triggers, bar ends > > and down tube shifters all make perfect sense. > > > And when it comes to "simplicity" the only thing "simple" about an > > internal geared hub is that it's all hidden inside the hub shell. It's > > far more complex mechanically than a derailleur drive train, it's just > > that you can't see it. > > > And when it comes to removing a wheel, either to transport the bike or > > to fix a flat, derailleur wins hands down. There are no complicated > > linkages to remove, and you have quick releases to allow for tool-free > > opening. > > > Maintenance? Removing the chain's no more difficult with one or the > > other, although obviously tensioning the chain correctly is harder with > > an internal geared hub than a derailleur, especially if you have > > vertical dropouts. Can cleaning a derailleur be all that hard? > > > I'd say the bottom line is, IG hubs have one advantage: you can shift > > without moving the cranks. > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > > > <thill....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these > > > heavy/draggy/ > > > hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which > > > will > > > require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have > > > worked > > > on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand > > > the > > > appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern > > > derailleurs?) > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.