Jumping in here pretty late... 'If you are willing to look at another person’s behavior toward you as a reflection of the state of their relationship with themselves rather than a statement about your value as a person, then you will, over a period of time cease to react at all.' - Yogi Bhajan
But if you do actually want to react, :), here are some responses I'd have at hand: * Where do you put your tent and sleeping bag? * How do you carry groceries on that? * What do you do with that bike when you run out of pavement? * Do you like looking like a skunk? (if your own bike has fenders) * How long do you think that bike will last? * How can you ride that thing without any suspension? (non-riv-like, but apropos) * What's the widest tire you can fit in there? Riv bikes address a different set of "problems" than racy bikes. For any kind of bike, you can easily "insult" other kinds of bikes as failing to address the concerns your bike does address. Photography provides an excellent metaphor for trade-offs. It's impossible to create The Perfect Camera for All Situations, because physics. You cannot have an all-range zoom camera with wide aperture at all focal lengths that you can carry in your pocket. It's just not possible. Everything in life involves trade-offs, and it's impossible to create a thing that addresses all needs, all the time. I just recently became a riv owner, but I've been lusting after them for quite a while. My first bike (when I took up cycling again in 2010) was a hybrid bike. People may think that Hawaii is perfect for cycling, but the infrastructure really is not up to grade (so to speak). Consequently, I ride routes which are away from the cars as much as possible. I very quickly learned that my aluminum, skinny tired (fatter than "race" but still skinny) bike was NOT good for the riding I was doing. I jumped in the other direction for my next bike and got a trek 29er hardtail. This was great for riding anywhere/everywhere but was really more than I needed, too heavy and not suited to carrying anything, and I wasn't really doing "mountain biking". There were a few more bikes in the stream before my current Appaloosa, but the point is that every bike addresses some needs and not others, and it's too easy to find fault with any bike based on the needs addressed by another kind of bike. Riv hits the points I need for my bike, and the riding I do, but it would be pointless for me to tell somebody else to get one, until I really knew what kind of riding they're going to do (which very likely is different than what kind of riding they think they want to do). cheerios On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Isn't it spring? I thought topics like this were the Winter variety. "Just > Ride" > > On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:42:39 PM UTC-7, Julian wrote: >> >> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect >> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying >> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really >> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) rode >> up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," "that >> thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few other >> choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. >> >> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs >> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the right >> bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got fed up >> and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how best to >> deal with people like that. >> >> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal >> compared to this joker. How do you respond? >> >> Julian Westerhout >> Bloomington, IL > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
