Patrick, I was just going by comments made during the single early research conversation I had with Dave, which I could have very easily misunderstood. When I asked him about recommendations for the AHH build, it was the same component set as used for the drop bar Sam. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-05.htm
That isn't quite what I was looking for. I was looking for a bit more upscaled build kit, which doesn't really fit with that more value oriented kit. That is what led to the component selection questions in this thread. I will revisit it and request a higher level component list, even if the parts are priced separately instead of as a combined kit. Thanks. Tim On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote: > Your three Riv cons are either non-existant or very minimal, though I > certainly has similar concerns when I ordered my Hunqapillar. > > "Con - Unless a part is RBW stock, I may have to buy most parts myself and > ship it to them" > As others have said, a non-issue. Riv can get anything. Though, as they > say, they reserve the right not to if it makes no sense whatsoever (and > they'll talk with you about why). > > "Con - RBW cannot ensure my fit of the assembled bike" > Actually they do. They stand behind the fit. Again, talk with them. This > is what they do and they do it very well. > > "Con - I cannot try out different stem lengths as easily" > Before purchase? No. But you can dial things in pretty easily via purchase > of used stems here or new from Riv. No biggie. > > Tim, you said to Patrick of the Moore: "Your comments on Rivendell and > Grant along with some prior comments (another Patrick?) have my brain > teasing with the idea of letting Grant pick components and build it just to > see what he comes up with." > Yes, you can't through a cat 'round these parts without hitting a Patrick > of one type or other. Grin. I stand by my recommendation to let Grant give > you the full Riv. build. You have years to tweek from there. And you may > find some of your assumptions of what you want/need vanish when your ride > what Riv. built for you. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > > On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 9:15:13 PM UTC-6, Tim Butterfield wrote: >> >> Hi, all. >> >> I have some more build questions, though not component related this time. >> >> What are the pros and cons of having RBW build the bike instead of having >> that done at the LBS? Some factors I have thought about include: >> >> RBW >> Pro - RBW knows the frame best and what would work on it >> Con - Unless a part is RBW stock, I may have to buy most parts myself and >> ship it to them >> Con - RBW cannot ensure my fit of the assembled bike >> Con - I cannot try out different stem lengths as easily >> >> LBS >> Pro - Can ensure everything works together >> Pro - Can order all/most parts themselves >> Pro - Can ensure fit of assembled bike >> Pro - Can test different stem lengths to check fit >> Con - Not likely to be as familiar with building a Homer >> Con - May have a preference for 'common' racer oriented gear >> Con - May not be as willing to track down non-current (older) new parts >> >> I spoke with one LBS who said they could build it. But, after a couple >> of emails to them, I have not yet received a reply, though it has been >> several days. That lowers my trust factor in them. So, I either need to >> find a different LBS or have it built by RBW. I'm not sure which way might >> be preferable. >> >> What other factors would weigh for or against either RBW or the LBS doing >> the build? If you know of an LBS in NW WA that you would recommend to do >> the build, please share that also. I'm an hour and a half north of >> Seattle, but could travel a little if needed. Another option may be to >> travel the ten hour round trip south to Portland to Rivelo, though I would >> prefer not to have to travel that far if a qualified LBS is right near to >> me. I am willing to do that if it is the best option. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Tim >> >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Tim Butterfield <timbutt...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I've been thinking of getting a Rivendell bicycle for a long time. I >>> first joined this group to lurk back in 2010 and have been a member and >>> sometimes lurker since then. But, I had not made the commitment and >>> purchased a Riv. The closest I came was getting a Velo-Orange Rando. That >>> was sort of rivish. >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/sets/72157624827193423 >>> >>> Being in the suburbs of Chicago near O'Hare airport limited my comfort >>> using it the way it should have been. That bike was sold before I left >>> Chicago to live full-time in an RV. Once we decided to settle in >>> Anacortes, WA (still in the RV), I purchased a Specialized AWOL Comp, >>> definitely not rivish. >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/sets/72157644371355428 >>> >>> It's a nice bike, but I now want something more rivish, this time, the >>> real thing. I'm thinking of getting either the Roadeo or the A Homer >>> Hilsen. I like the idea of the liveliness and sportiness of the Roadeo, >>> but like the bit of extra versatility of the AHH also. With my weight at >>> 200+ (PBH 33" or 83.8cm, age 51), I'm leaning towards the AHH instead of >>> the Roadeo. I can start more roadish with the AHH and, as I build my >>> abilities further, expand the bike to fit new and/or different tasks >>> without having to change frames. >>> >>> So, I'm fairly settled on getting my first Riv, one of the two >>> mentioned. My pondering now is mostly on how to appoint it. My Rando was >>> more modern with the 105 setup. The AWOL was definitely modern with discs >>> and SRAM setup. But, I'm not tied to that. Though I haven't used it much, >>> I like the looks of a quill stem, drop bars, and downtube shifters. It >>> looks clean and simple. I'm just not sure what it's like to live with. I >>> expect that, like many things, it is a matter of adapting to it. But, >>> using DT shifters or bar ends does set a direction as neither would work >>> with an 11-speed I could have instead. I'm trying to consider the pros and >>> cons of each. >>> >>> With my AWOL, I leave it locked to the cabana just outside my RV. Some >>> RVs have sufficient inside storage for a bike. Mine doesn't. >>> >>> My questions to the group are these: As I am not yet doing longer >>> distances, are there still benefits to the more traditional setups? If I >>> pick either one, what might I later miss the other may have provided? Are >>> there likely to be any weather related or other wear issues leaving a Riv >>> locked to the RV park cabana like I do my AWOL? I'm doubtful of that, but >>> don't want to mistreat it either. Any thing else I should consider? >>> >>> Thanks for any advice you have. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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