Regarding grips OR bar-ends: you can use the cork grips from Riv with
bar-end shifters; just make sure you get the ones that are pre-punched and
grooved for that purpose:  http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/gt5be.htm.


On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jon Craig <modemmisu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the detailed answer!  (And yes, we're both LOVING our Sams!
> Truly amazing bikes.)
>
> The Albastache looks good and I'm really thinking about it. It would be
> just the bar for me, since I have a Samcomplete, which has barend shifters
> that will go in the barend position on that bar.  But I still wonder about
> moving them to the stem or downtube and putting some nice grips on instead.
> O_o
>
>
> On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 11:11:46 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> First of all, congratulations on your double Sam purchase.  If you and
>> your wife have not completely fallen in love with the bikes already... you
>> will!  I bought my orange canti-Sam new-to-me on craigslist.  It came with
>> Albatross bars wrapped with leather Brooks tape (cream-colored... or so I
>> thought), bar end shifters and Paul mountain levers (
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16372487184/in/dateposted-public/).
>> Felt great for cruising around unracing but I found that I was riding the
>> fronts of the bars a lot seeking a little more aggressive riding position.
>> I also noticed that the bar end shifters occasionally hit my knees if I
>> wasn't careful.  I had once had mustache bars on a Surly Cross Check and
>> loved them.  This lead me to bite the bullet and buy Albastache bars.  It
>> was a decent sized investment.  The Albastache purchase required buying a
>> new 26.0 stem that is 3cm shorter than the Albatross stem, new road levers
>> (bummed to let go of the Pauls) and new cables.  Roughly $250.  Final
>> assessment... totally worth it!  I love this set up (
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/24621117222/in/dateposted-public/
>> and
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/17290439362/in/dateposted-public/)!
>> It doesn't provide as upright position as the Albatross does but it does
>> provide enough for me.  I love the more aggressive riding position that
>> gives me all the forward lean I want from a bar (less than drops).
>>
>> I've kept the Albatross bars, Paul levers and 25.4 stem in case I ever
>> want to change things up again but the Albastache is here to stay for the
>> foreseeable future.  Even better than my old mustache bars.  Great on road,
>> great on trails.  The only other bars I'd consider now are the Choco Norm
>> which seems to provide the forward position as well as a more upright
>> position than the Albastache.  I'd probably have to use thumbies so my
>> knees don't hit bar ends.  As for the leather tape, I removed the
>> creme-colored Brooks tape only to find out it was burgundy tape that had
>> faded!  I transferred my honey Brooks tape from another bike to match my
>> saddle.  This is the third bike I've had this tape on.  It has held up
>> beautifully and has even been torn in a crash.  Since it only cut it
>> halfway through, I reinforced it with Gorilla tape underneath and rewrapped
>> it in the other direction so the cut was covered.  Still going strong for 6
>> or 7 years and comfy.  I just use saddle goop on it occassionally (
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-big.htm).
>>
>> Enjoy your Sams.
>> John
>>
>> On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 3:28:59 AM UTC-7, Jon Craig wrote:
>>>
>>> How many out there installed a 'stache bar (Mous or Alba!) on their
>>> Sam?  Did you keep the existing bar-end shifters?  Or move them to the stem
>>> or downtube?  I'd love to see pics of different setups - and more
>>> importantly hear about how well they worked out and what you like/liked
>>> and/or don't/didn't like about it.
>>>
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