Steve, "51" for an upslope Riv is kind of deceiving. Back in the day of 
level-ish toptubes, Grant would have put me on a 53/54/55 bike. The 51 
Appaloosa has a virtual toptube of 56.5cm, which, in my opinion, is the better 
way to list its size. Sizing upslope frames by actual seattube length doesn't 
tell you anything but standover height. 

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