John, she does say it's not the review itself. Just some initial thoughts 
since she's already had it so long while she tries to finish figuring out 
what makes it ride like it does without having to use the word 'magic,' and 
also to test it's haulin' abilities a bit more. Personally, I can say with 
3000 miles on mine I agree with everything she's said in those initial 
impressions. I look forward to her formal review, they have historically 
been pretty good. It was her review of the Simcoe Roadster Signature that 
convinced me to plunk on one a couple years back for riding with my 
then-fiancée instead of cheaping down to the (then much better than now) 
Trek Allant for that use.

I will go ahead and go where she won't though, the Clem is magic. It's my 
heaviest and upright bike. It feels like I'm going slower and more relaxed 
every time I ride it, but my times are all as good as they were on any 
other bike I've been through, sometimes faster, and I'm happier riding it 
farther than I am any of the others. Mine's been down this week as I have 
the front wheel rebuilt, so, I've been riding my original commuter and my 
Simcoe, and they both just feel a little... meh, now. I think the Clem's 
ruining other bikes for me.

On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:01:44 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Zed
>
> I was referring to the "Lovely Bicycle" review.  Frankly, the write ups by 
> the list members are better.  The review seemed to have wandered.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:57:18 PM UTC-4, Zed Martinez wrote:
>
>> pb - I use mine with a shorter stem (10cm, not 12 or 13cm) and don't have 
>> any problem with flex. The long stems plus the Clem still slightly confuse 
>> me for most uses, the whole reason for the extra length of the Clem's 
>> effective top tube length I gathered from the long development history was 
>> so you could use the Boscos comfortably without having to use the longest 
>> stem going. My 52cm Clem with 10cm stem is about the same as using the 
>> Boscos as a 54cm Hunq with a 13cm stem on paper.
>>
>> John - Which reviewer, Velouria (lovelybicycle) or Annie? Velouria has a 
>> weird history with Rivs, but she's probably the biggest blogger going in 
>> the non standard bike scene, she has ridden and reviewed a lot of bikes in 
>> the Clem demographic.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 7:26:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/09/clementine-belated-befuddled-bedazzled.html
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
>>> Aristotle
>>>
>>>
>>>

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