I have the exact opposite take. Annie is "beside herself" after a five minute ride around the block because she "expected to immediately fall in love with the Clementine...but unfortunately the upright stance reminded me of a cruiser" What Clem owner opinions was she reading that did not mention its cruise factor? And what does any of that mean in terms of telling me something about the ride quality?
I am much more likely to listen to the opinions of a reviewer who spends a good amount of time with a bike before pronouncing judgement. Despite prepping myself by building up a Schwinn Le Tour mixte with Albatross bars a year or so before getting my Clementine, the Bosco Bullmoose were significantly different in terms of body position that I gave myself 6 months with them before making any swaps. But the "cruise" ride quality--fun, relaxed, fluid handling, but responsive when the pedals get pushed hard--was there from the start. It is this surprising blend that give the Clementine (or Clem) that addictive quality. Plus in person, they are substantial and beautiful machines, despite lacking the (once) signature Rivendell lugwork. On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:20:00 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Zed and others > > I read the "Annie" review for a comparison to Lovely Bicycle. IMHO Annies > review is significantly better than "Lovely Bicycle", not as cutsy, not as > wandering. > > Annie's review got to the point: 'I don't like the bars, but the rest > seems good" I understand. Suggest calling GP and ask him what bars would > work better for her. > > Lovely Bicycle wandered and seemed to want to impress the reader with > "clever" writing versus factual reporting. Frankly, the RBW blugs are much > better and you know they are selling. > > Annie BOUGHT the Clementine. "Lovely Bicycle" was LOANED the bicycle. > IMHO, this makes the Annie review much more credible. > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ, perhaps a little too critical today > > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:57:18 PM UTC-4, Zed Martinez wrote: > >> pb - I use mine with a shorter stem (10cm, not 12 or 13cm) and don't have >> any problem with flex. The long stems plus the Clem still slightly confuse >> me for most uses, the whole reason for the extra length of the Clem's >> effective top tube length I gathered from the long development history was >> so you could use the Boscos comfortably without having to use the longest >> stem going. My 52cm Clem with 10cm stem is about the same as using the >> Boscos as a 54cm Hunq with a 13cm stem on paper. >> >> John - Which reviewer, Velouria (lovelybicycle) or Annie? Velouria has a >> weird history with Rivs, but she's probably the biggest blogger going in >> the non standard bike scene, she has ridden and reviewed a lot of bikes in >> the Clem demographic. >> >> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 7:26:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/09/clementine-belated-befuddled-bedazzled.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >>> Other professional writing services. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >>> ************************************* >>> *************************************************** >>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a >>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and >>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu >>> >>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the >>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto >>> >>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart >>> >>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) * >>> Aristotle >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
